Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Nathan Ward
On 4/06/2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:35:29 EDT, Donald Stahl said: That said- your v6 support does not have to match your v4 support to at least allow you to begin testing. You could set up a single server with v6 support, test, and not worry about i

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
If I read the thread so far correctly, Igor can't enable a single server with v6, because the instant he updates the DNS so an MX for his domain references a , that will become the preferred target for his domain from the entire IPv6 world, and he's gonna need a load balancer from Day 0. Thi

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
Actually, for me 100% feature parity (for stuff we use per vip) is a day-1 requirement. That's obviously your choice. I don't know the first thing about your application/services/systems but in my case my load balancer has nothing to do with my application/services- and I would be frightened i

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:35:29 EDT, Donald Stahl said: > >> That said- your v6 support does not have to match your v4 support to at >> least allow you to begin testing. You could set up a single server with v6 >> support, test, and not worry about it affecting productio

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:35:29 EDT, Donald Stahl said: > That said- your v6 support does not have to match your v4 support to at > least allow you to begin testing. You could set up a single server with v6 > support, test, and not worry about it affecting production. If I read the thread so far c

IPv6 transition work was RE: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread michael.dillon
> Without naming any vendors, quite a few features that work > with hardware assist/fast path in v4, don't have the same > hardware assist in v6 (or that sheer enabling of ipv6 doesn't > impact v4 performance drasticly). > Also, quite a few features simply are not supported in v6 > (not to m

Re: NAT Multihoming

2007-06-03 Thread Simon Leinen
Donald Stahl writes: > When an ISP's caching name servers ignore your 3600 TTL and > substitute an 86400 TTL you end up disconnected for ~12 hours > instead of ~30 minutes- You write "when" rather than "if" - is ignoring reasonable TTLs current practice? (Ignoring routing updates for small route

NANOG40 PGP Key Signing

2007-06-03 Thread Majdi Abbas
Just a reminder, The keysigning sessions are going to be during the morning breaks during the general session, Monday through Wednesday, in the Lake Sammamish room. If you haven't already done so and plan to participate, please add your key to the keyring at:

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Igor Gashinsky
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Donald Stahl wrote: :: >Not speaking directly for my employer (in any official capacity :: > that is), but it's is *not* as easy as as just IPv6 enabling our network, :: > enabling ipv6 on the servers, and putting up ipv6.yahoo.com. Currently, :: > the biggest roadblock we

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
Not speaking directly for my employer (in any official capacity that is), but it's is *not* as easy as as just IPv6 enabling our network, enabling ipv6 on the servers, and putting up ipv6.yahoo.com. Currently, the biggest roadblock we have is loadbalancer support (or, more specificly, la

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Igor Gashinsky
:: Isn't his point that y! could offer IPv6 e-mail in parallel to the :: existing IPv4 service, putting the IPv6 machines in a subdomain :: ipv6.yahoo.com, so that end users and networks who want to do it can :: do so without bothering the others? Not speaking directly for my employer (in

Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff

2007-06-03 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:28:34PM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Hi, > > As more and more cool IPv6 applications and services are becoming > available, I converted the former FAQ entry we had on this into a more > easily found/remembered page. I was doing some searching and came across t

NAT Multihoming (was:Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-06-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 01 June 2007, Vince Fuller wrote: > If you think about it, the NAT approach actually offers the possibility of > improved routing scalability: site multihomed with NATs connected to each > of its providers could use topologically-significant (read "PA") global > addresses on the NATs whi