You could achieve the exact same result simply by not advertising the
network to your peers, or by advertising a bogus route (prefixing a
known bogon AS for the addresses you want null-routed). I realize you
would have to subnet/deaggregate your netblocks, and therefore could
wind up with a prefix
IANAL, but I have filed some patents, and reviewed a bunch more.
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> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
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> From: Ben Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:42 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
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> "If you're trying to do it on a /32 basis, I doubt you&
happy to stand corrected. If I've offended anyone, I'm sorry.
Best wishes to all. May your packets flow, your sessions connect, and
your pagers remain silent.
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> From: Ben Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:31 AM
&g
My experience is that a lot of the BB providers route through NAPs/MAEs
when they have local peering. The Internet IS more brittle than it needs
to be, because routing seems to be a lot more static than it should be.
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Pakistan is deliberately blocking Youtube.
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/24/1628213
Maybe we should all block Pakistan.
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> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
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> Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
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> While they are deliberately blocking Youtube nationally, I
> suspect the wider issue has no malice, and
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> Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
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> Exactly... They inadvertently made the details of their
> oppression more readily apparent...
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ger-prefix hijacking
(especially problematic with things like MS update sites).
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> From: Simon Lockhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
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Fundamentally, this is a policy issue, and the implementation details
will need to be worked out, but today's event with YouTube is an
exclamation point on a problem many of us have been wrestling with for
some time: the advertising of unused but non-bogon address space by
cybercriminals.
Whether
ould have considered 17557,
as a national telco, a trusted route source.
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>
> On Feb 24, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
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public domain).
It's also something that can be built using the existing infrastructure,
and rough consensus.
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> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:25 PM
> To: Tomas L. Byrnes
> Cc: Simon Lockhar
This is a very interesting site. However, I notice that, in the "all in
the last 24 hours" it doesn't show the YouTube hijack. It does have a
lot of entries for 17557, most recently on 2/17.
How reliable is this system?
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Since the US has no jurisdiction over 17557, other than for the US govt.
to force ISPs to refuse to accept any advertisements with 17557 or any
other AS that didn't meet some regulatory requirements in the path, how
would you propose that the regulatory environment you envision work?
American Air
Have you queried the DShield database for the hosts you are seeing?
http://www.dshield.org/ipinfo.html?ip= add the IP after the =
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rich Sena
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:02 PM
> To: NANOG
>
What's even more interesting is that googling Ray Demain shows nothing,
except this message.
I'd say that M. Demain does not exist, and his money will be as real as
his on-line presence.
I always love commissions promised from entities whose revenues you
can't audit.
Never mind that the purpo
What's more funny is that googling "Ray Demain" only brings up lots of
posts from you looking for NXDOMAIN data.
What's your real name? Who do YOU work for? Who funds that company?
Before you go accusing others of subterfuge and conspiracy, be up front
about who you are, what you're about, and
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