Re: IPv6 news

2005-10-16 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Tony, On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:26:20 -0700 Tony Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps > this is yet another case where people misunderstand the principle > itself and are invoking it to give a name to their (well placed) > architectural distaste. > Doesn't NAT, or more specifically

Re: And Now for Something Completely Different (was Re: IPv6 news)

2005-10-16 Thread Mark Smith
Hi David, > > Well, if you NAT the destination identifier into a routing locator > when a packet traverses the source edge/core boundary and NAT the > locator back into the original destination identifier when you get to > the core/destination edge boundary, it might be relevant. The

Re: IPv6 daydreams

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Smith
Hi David, On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:49:25 -0700 (PDT) David Barak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd change the allocation approach: rather than give > every customer a /64, which represents an IPv4 > universe full of IPv4 universes, I'd think that any > customer can make do with a single IPv4

Re: IPv6 daydreams

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Randy, On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:08:49 -1000 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If we're going to do that, we may as well also start reclaiming > > those 48 bit MAC addresses that come with ethernet cards. After > > all, nobody would need anymore than say 12 to 13 bits to address > > t

Re: IPv6 news

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:57:52 -0700 David Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 01:45:40AM -0700, Tony Li wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is probably the most common misunderstanding of the end-to-end > > principle out there. Someone else can dig up the quote, but > > ba

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-12 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:12:13 + (GMT) "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe there is a 'rfc1918' in v6 (yet), I agree that it doesn't > seem relevant, damaging perhaps though :) > Sort of do, with a random component in them to help attempt to prevent collis

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-14 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:36:00 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'd like to see some acknowledgement that there are legitimate uses of > > number resources that don't include "the public Internet". > RFC1627, "Network 10 Considered Harmful (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified)" and RFC3879,

Re: IAB and "private" numbering

2005-11-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:44:10 +0100 Daniel Karrenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15.11 07:38, Mark Smith wrote: > > > > RFC1627, "Network 10 Considered Harmful (Some Practices Shouldn't be > > Codified)" and RFC3879, "Deprecating Site Local Add

Re: GoDaddy DDoS

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:18:52 -0700 "Sam Crooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This confidentiality notice almost DoS'd my MUA ! > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: > This message, and any attachments, are intended only for the lawful and > specified use of the individual or entity to which it is addres

Re: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

2005-12-16 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:16:17 + (GMT) "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > > http://www.secsup.org/files/dmm-queuing.pdf > > > > oh firstgrad spelling where ahve you gone? > > also at: http://www.secsup.org/files/

Re: Problems connectivity GE on Foundry BigIron to Cisco 2950T

2006-01-15 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Randy, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:10:04 -1000 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You are using a crossover cable right? > >> I'm having a right mare trying to get a Foundry BigIron to > >> connect up to a cisco 2950T, via Gigabit copper. > > i was under the impression that gige spec h

Re: Problems connectivity GE on Foundry BigIron to Cisco 2950T

2006-01-15 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:50:07 + (GMT Standard Time) Sam Stickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > The cabling arrangement is: > > Foundry -- Straight -- Patch -- Underfloor -- Patch -- Crossover -- Cisco > GBIC Cable Panel Straight Panel Cable > > If I r

Re: Problems connectivity GE on Foundry BigIron to Cisco 2950T

2006-01-15 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:24:35 + (GMT Standard Time) Sam Stickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Mark Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:50:07 + (GMT Standard Time) > > Sam Stickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > &

Re: Stupidity: A Real Cyberthreat.

2006-01-19 Thread Mark Smith
The purpose of terrorism is to create widespread _terror_ (the hint is in the word). On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:00:28 -0700 A Satisfied Mind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/19/06, Jerry Pasker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are oversimplifying things here Why was the World Trade Center

Re: Stupidity: A Real Cyberthreat.

2006-01-19 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:17:35 -0700 A Satisfied Mind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/19/06, Mark Smith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The purpose of terrorism is to create widespread _terror_ (the > > hint is in the word). > > And what is terror?

Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:56:37 -0600 "Stephen Sprunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thus spake "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Feb 24, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > There are a few advantages to going with PTP VLANs, such as eliminating > DR/BDR elections needed o

Re: Transit LAN vs. Individual LANs

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:41:45 +1030 Mark Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To qualify this better, there are no DR/BDR on the segment at all, rather than there being ones that just aren't used : > Automatic nighbour discovery via multicast hellos still happens, the > diffe

Re: UDP Badness [Was: Re: How to measure network quality&performance for voip&gameservers (udp packetloss, delay, jitter,...)]

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 23:33:44 + "tony sarendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/03/06, Gunther Stammwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Well that's true but Iperf won't show you at which time a loss occured. It > > will simply print out the results when the test has been finished. I

Re: Network graphics tools

2006-03-22 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Howard, On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:17:44 -0500 "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Much of the enterprise market seems wedded to Visio as their network > graphics tool, which locks them into Windows. Personally, I hate both > little pictures of equipment and Cisco hockey-puck

Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-25 Thread Mark Smith
n Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:32:13 -0500 (EST) Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=463928&category=BUSINESS&newsdate=3/23/2006 > A fire Tuesday that tore through a popular bakery in Cohoes left 70,000 > Time Warner Cable subscribers with

Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-25 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:16:34 -0500 Aaron Gagnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one? > > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2471255~root=cable,opt~mode=flat > Could be. Keith Woodworth sent me this version of it off list : http://please.rutgers.edu/show/broadband/fibercable.jpg I seem

Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-26 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:05:49 -0600 neal rauhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The fiber cable hit by bullet was in New Jersey if I'm recalling > correctly ... this was maybe four or five years ago. If memory serves > (and forty *is* uncomfortably close) this was part of a cable modem p

Re: Mutual Redistribution

2006-03-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:46:13 +0530 "Glen Kent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > There is a provider who is running ISIS in its core and they are using > RIP for the management interface. Is it valid to redistribute all the > ISIS routes into RIP and all the RIP routes into ISIS? > Depen

Re: Mutual Redistribution

2006-03-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:37:48 -0500 Joe Maimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mark Smith wrote: > > > One better > > solution is to take advantage of route tags or labels. When a route is > > redistributed you tag it, and then when mutual redistribution oc

Re: Mutual Redistribution

2006-03-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:33:08 -0500 Joe Maimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mark Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:37:48 -0500 > > > > > > Did it happen to be RIPv1 ? Only RIPv2 supports route tags. > > > Of course it was rip2 >

Re: Interesting new spam technique - getting a lot more popular.

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:59:51 -0700 Warren Kumari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:18 AM, John van Oppen wrote: > > > > That being said, I know at least one of our transit customers does > > hosting exactly how you are describing. Coincidentally, this > > customer is

Re: Is it my imagination or are countless operations impacted today with mysql meltdowns

2006-08-26 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Henry Linneweh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Every where I go that uses MySql is hozed and I can not access the pages > > -Henry There seems to have been a big fault over there that is effecting us here in .AU. According to our local upstream it's a G

Re: Is it my imagination or are countless operations impacted today with mysql meltdowns

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:13:50 -0400 Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 08:04:01AM +0930, Mark Smith wrote: > > > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:48:39 -0700 (PDT) > > Henry Linneweh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >

Re: "2M today, 10M with no change in technology"? An informal survey.

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:11:52 -0400 "William Herrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/27/07, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > an MSFC2 can > > hold 256,000 entries in its FIB of which 12,000 are reserved for > > Multicast. I do not know if the 12,000 can be set to serve the general >

Re: Congestion control train-wreck workshop at Stanford: Call for Demos

2007-09-05 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:19:32 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:37:46PM -0400, John Curran wrote: > > > > At 9:21 PM -0400 9/3/07, Joe Abley wrote: > > > > > >Is there a groundswell of *operators* who think TCP should be replaced, > > >and believe it can be replaced?

Re: what a non-neutral net would look to the user

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:02:32 -1000 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://isen.com/blog/uploaded_images/5z6vt4n-720249.jpg IMS? -- "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly alert." - Bruce Schneier, "Beyond F

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-04 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:50:11 +0100 Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, try buying bandwidth in Australia! The have a lot more water to > cover ( and so potentially more cost and more profit to be made by > monopolies) than well connected areas such as the US. > I don't necessaril

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Andrew, On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:36:12 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Odlyzko) wrote: > > As a point of information, Australia is one of the few places where > the government collects Internet traffic statistics (which are hopefully > trustworthy). Pointer is at > >http://www.dtc.

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-22 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:31:09 -0700 Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > > This result is unsurprising and not controversial. TCP achieves > > fairness *among flows* because virtually all clients back off in > > response to packet drops. BitTorrent, though,

Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?

2007-12-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:49:18 GMT "Paul Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > - -- "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Dec 17, 2007 9:59 PM, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> And in fact, "threat propagat

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-20 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:26:43 +0900 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I work on a network with 100K+ DSL folks and 200+ leased line > > customers, plus some other stuff. The leased line customers are > > increasing dramatically. I should plan for a /64 for every DSL > > customer and a

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-21 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:31:07 -0800 Owen DeLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The primary reasons I see for separate networks on v6 would include > > firewall policy (DMZ, separate departmental networks, etc)... > > > This is certainly one reason for such things. > > > And I'm having some tro

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-22 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:53:52 -0800 "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2007 12:23 PM, Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 01:33:15PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote: > > > For example... Within one's own network (or subnet if you will) w

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:54:34 -0500 Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 12:24:32AM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > First of all, there's RFC 3513: > > > > For all unicast addresses, except those that start with binary value > > 000, Interface IDs are r

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:46:26 +0100 Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Joe Greco: > > >> Right now, we might say "wow, 256 subnets for a single end-user... > >> hogwash!" and in years to come, "wow, only 256 subnets... what were we > >> thinking!?" > > > > Well, what's the likelih

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:26:12 -0600 (CST) Joe Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If operational simplicity of fixed length node addressing is a > > technical reason, then I think it is a compelling one. If you've ever > > done any reasonable amount of work with Novell's IPX (or other fixed > > l

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:27:55 -0600 (CST) Joe Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think Ethernet is also another example of the benefits of > > > > spending/"wasting" address space on operational convenience - who needs > > > > 46/47 bits for unicast addressing on a single layer 2 network!?

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:58:44 +0900 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There's a tendency to move away from (simulated) shared media networks. > > "One host per subnet" might become the norm. > > and, with multiple addresses per interface, the home user surely _might_ > need a /32. >

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:27:13 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26 dec 2007, at 22:40, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > > > It would be very interesting to me if the answer was "it's moot > > because we're going to move to CGA's as a step forward"; it would > > be equally i

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:11:54 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 dec 2007, at 11:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > "Configure this stuff manually" may work for a small number of > > customers. It is highly undesirable (and probably won't be considered > > at all) in

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:57:59 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 dec 2007, at 20:26, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > Taken to its extreme "feature parity" means a search and replace of > all IPv4 specs to make every instance of "32 bits" "128 bits" but not >

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:08:10 -0800 "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > First, thanks everyone for the discussion. I learned more from this than a > LOT of other discussions on IPv6. I now have a plan and I didn't before... > > It looks to me that one really has to know his

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:57:45 +0900 Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ever calculated how many Ethernet nodes you can attach to a single LAN > > with 2^46 unicast addresses? > > you mean operationally successfully, or just for marketing glossies? > Theoretically. What I find a bit hard

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:36:56 +0900 Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2007, Mark Smith wrote: > > > Once I realised that IPv6's fixed sized node addressing model was > > similar to Ethernet's, I then started wondering why Ethernet w

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:50:01 -0500 "Robert E. Seastrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd really, really, really like to have DHCP6 on the Mac. Autoconfig > is not sufficient for this task unless there is some kind of trick you > can do to m

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:14:25 -0500 Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:57:45 +0900 > > Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> Ev

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-29 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:14:25 -0500 Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:57:45 +0900 > > Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Would

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-30 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:08:34 +0100 Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Weeks wrote: > [..] > > I have about 100K DSL customers at this time and most all are households. > > 65K wouldn't cover that. At this point, I doubt that I'd require much > > more than just asking and making sur

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-31 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:18:41 -0800 Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Smith wrote: > > > > > Another idea would be to give each non-/48 customer the > > first /56 out of each /48. If you started out with a /30 or /31 RIR block , > > by &g

Re: Assigning IPv6 /48's to CPE's?

2007-12-31 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:18:08 -0600 (CST) Joe Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I see there is a long thread on IPv6 address assignment going, and I > > apologize that I did not read all of it, but I still have some unanswered > > questions. > > Anyways, I suggest you run over and read >

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2007-12-31 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:27:50 +1030 Mark Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:18:41 -0800 > Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Mark Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > Another idea would be to give e

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL & leased line customers

2008-01-01 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:57:17 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 31 dec 2007, at 1:24, Mark Smith wrote: > > > Another idea would be to give each non-/48 customer the > > first /56 out of each /48. > > Right, so you combine the down

Re: Assigning IPv6 /48's to CPE's?

2008-01-04 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:53:24 -0500 "William Herrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2008 11:25 AM, Tim Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Only assuming the nature of your mistake is 'turn it off'. > > > > Do you mean to tell me there's actually such a thing as a network > engineer

Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-15 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:43:12 -0500 "William Herrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:25 PM, Joe Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So users who rarely use their connection are more profitable to the ISP. > > > > The fat man isn't a welcome sight to the owner of the AYCE buffe

Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-15 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:56:30 +0900 Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008, Mark Smith wrote: > > > But the fat man isn't allowed to take up residence in the restaurant > > and continously eat - he's only allowed to be there in b

Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Smith
Don't worry if the ISOC website times out, their firewall isn't TCP ECN compatible. It was going to be fixed a couple of years ago when I enquired about it, but obviously hasn't been. Being liberal in what they'll accept seems to be a bit of a problem for them. It's the last remaining non-ECN com

Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:41:27 -0500 Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27-Feb-2008, at 15:09, Mark Smith wrote: > > > Don't worry if the ISOC website times out, their firewall isn't TCP > > ECN compatible. > > Isn't it the case i

Re: load balancing and fault tolerance without load balancer

2008-03-14 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:42:26 +0800 (CST) Joe Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, > >we plan to set up a web site with two web servers. > >The two servers should be under the same domain > name. Normally, web surfing load should be > distributed between the servers. when one serve

Re: icmp rpf

2006-09-24 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Mark Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If so, which of these two nets is unreasonable in their actions/policies? > The non-announcers, because they're also breaking PMTUD. Regards, Mark. -- "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must rem

Re: icmp rpf

2006-09-25 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Mark, On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Mark Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Smith wrote: > >> The non-announcers, because they're also breaking PMTUD. > > Really? How? Remember, we're not talking about RFC1918 space, > where there is a

Re: New router feature - icmp error source-interface [was: icmp rpf]

2006-09-25 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:22:34 -0400 "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Ian Mason wrote: > > > ICMP packets will, by design, originate from the incoming interface > > used by the packet that triggers the ICMP packet. Thus giving an > > interface a

Re: UUNET issues?

2006-11-04 Thread Mark Smith
> the internet is broken. anyone know why? No.

Re: UUNET issues?

2006-11-04 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:55:46 -0800 Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > "Could you be any less descriptive of the problem you are seeing?" > >>> the internet is broken. anyone know why? > >> Did you ping it? > > > > is that what

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:25:54 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am suggesting that ISP folks should be cooperating with > P2P software developers. Typically, the developers have a very > vague understanding of how the network is structured and are > essentially trying to reverse engineer netwo

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Smith
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:33:26 +0800 Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2007, Charlie Allom wrote: > > > > This is a pure example of a problem from the operational front which can > > > be floated to research and the industry, with smarter solutions than port > > > blocki

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:38:06 -0600 (CST) Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Alexander Harrowell wrote: > > Marshall wrote: > > Those sorts of percentages are common in Pareto distributions (AKA > > > > > Zipf's law AKA "the 80-20 rule"). > > > With the Zipf's exponen

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:51:08 -0800 Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > It doesn't seem that the P2P > > application developers are doing it, maybe because they don't care > > bec

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:47:04 -0800 Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The advantage of providing caching services is that they both help > preserve scare resources and result in a more pleasing user > experience. As already pointed out, CAPEX/OPEX along with insertion > into

Re: CDN & ISP (was: Re: Google wants to be your Internet)

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:15:44 -0600 (CST) Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Michal Krsek wrote: > > > > For broad-band ISPs, whose main goal is not to sell or re-sell transit > though... > > > > > a) caching systems are not easy to implement and maintain (another

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:07:06 -0800 Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course I understand this, but I also understand that if one can > get away with RFC1918 addresses on a non-Internet-connected network, > it's not a bad idea to do so in and of itself; quite the opposite, in >

Re: Security gain from NAT

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:45:01 -0700 David Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > > The thing is, with IPv6 there's no need to do NAT. > > Changing providers without renumbering your entire infrastructure. > > Multi-homing without having to know

Re: UK ISPs v. US ISPs (was RE: Network Level Content Blocking)

2007-06-11 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:38:20 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IMHO, unless it's something blatantly illegal such as kiddie porn and the > like I don't think content filtering is the responsibility of the ISP's. > Besides all of the conspiracy theories that are bound to surface, I think > forcin

Re: Network Parameters on Subscriber side feelings

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:02:55 +0100 Leigh Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> is there any work or research on measuring method for > >> subscriber (customer)side feelings of network service? > >> > > > We have been doing a lot of work on how to measure