Anyone driving over to the docks from the Sheraton hotel tomorrow AM?
Willing to split a cab otherwise.
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lutely no experience or data to base my assumptions on,
>so don't slap me too hard.
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siness model
>> and greatly
>> skew your traffic ratios to hopefully reach a critical mass. I
>> would think
>> at some point you would have so much content that people would
>> start to come
>> to you for peering or to purchase access to get to that c
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Not a problem, available at Disneyland, visit the gift shop while u
r there for those OC768 card for the cisco 2621.
While u are there if u could pick me up one those DAVE license
plates, I'd appreciate it!
Sorry all I couldnt resist ;-)
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I almost forgot about those netedge boxes, seems the one we had in DC
was about as reliable as a microwave with tin foil in it. I cant
remember how many times it or a card had been replaced.
Is anyone out there still using them? I do have fond memories of
fddi, about the only truly stable c
s than 0.001% of the time? you
>want to have the complexity as your most likely source of (false positive)
>error?
>
>> As far as I understand, this "complexity" just got added with Neighbor
>> Discovery on IPv6.
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>if so, then, you misunderstand.
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more neutral than a normal abovenet/exodus/att/qwest/ibm/uunet
>hosting center would be, and that makes them the only game in that town.
>
>i recommend that you work hard at helping them fix whatever it is they're
>doing wrong. think of your work in that regard as a public s
n I suggest reading the
>debt covenants in their SEC filings. On one hand I doubt they'll be able
>to live up to them by Q2 2003, but then Cisco is their main investor so
>the consequences may not be that bad if they fail to meet them.
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g. Is the consensus that it's
mostly a customer service issue, where latency isnt affected but
customer perception is? Or is it a real latency issue as more
routers take a few CPU cycles to make a routing decision.
Dave
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om a hardware standpoint, it speeds up
the process significantly. Think of a factory with a cleaver
machine, it knows exactly where to chop the pieces because there is a
rhythm. It takes no "figuring out." By chopping up everything into
set sizes you dont need to "search" for headers or different parts of
the packet. It's always at a "set" byte number. Well Ive done a
poor job of explaining it, but it does speed things up.
>
>Pete
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;t say without a sniffer, but I'd bet that most NANOG participants are
>doing the same: SSH or IPsec VPN's back to home (wherever that is).
>Anyone who
>isn't is begging to be hacked, WEP or not. Anyone interested in hacking NANOG
>attendees' networks is likely a NANOG attendee himself. Caveat attendor.
>
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>> ...
>> I just got word of this last night.
>>
>> Here's the publication and the story for any who are interested:
>>
>>
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/08/30/BU117189.DTL&type=business
>>
>> I certainly hope this doesn't happen.
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ut where in the world should "J" move?
i have been pushing bejing for a few years. except it would be
nice to have built some operational understanding and trust with
those folk first, perhaps by asking them to secondary arpa for a
while.
randy
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sushi
dinner. Every wed in a different restaurant.
At 16:26 -0500 11/13/02, Dale Levesque wrote:
Does anyone in here now of a South
Florida Network Operators Group, or something similar, and if not,
would they be interested in starting one.
Dale Levesque
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 + (GMT)
From: A Trap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature.
These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambo
eem to be equally mundane (but exciting at the
same time).
Pete.
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:22:09 -0500 David Diaz wrote:
> 2) There is a lack of a killer app requiring peering every 100 sq Km.
I recommend some quality time with journals cove
At 18:31 + 11/14/02, E.B. Dreger wrote:
DD> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:22:09 -0500
DD> From: David Diaz
DD> 1) Long haul circuits are dirt cheap. Meaning distance
DD> peering becomes more attractive. L3 also has an MPLS product
DD> so you pay by the meg. I am surprised a g
calling son etc etc
So we can think of these "peering centers" as replacements for the
5-10 COs in most average cities.
Otherwise what apps require such dense peering.
At 14:44 -0800 11/14/02, Vadim Antonov wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, David Diaz wrote:
2) There is a lack of a
At 1:20 +0200 11/15/02, Rafi Sadowsky wrote:
## On 2002-11-14 14:44 -0800 Vadim Antonov typed:
VA>
VA>
VA> On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, David Diaz wrote:
VA>
VA> > 2) There is a lack of a killer app requiring peering every 100 sq Km.
VA>
VA> Peering every 100 sq km is absolutely
ill in the ISPs name) IP backbone quality, at Cogent's pricing of
less then $30meg... great...
At 9:55 -0500 11/15/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:36:54 -0500 David Diaz wrote:
People seem to prefer cost of quality at this time.
Good
Fast
Cheap
Honey, part of ou
arguing that no one wants to use them. Of course no one wants to use
them they know they won't work!
>>> David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/14/02 05:52PM
>>>
Voice of reason...
The only possible reason I can think of is if these data networks
replace the present voice
I agree with everything said Stephen except the part about the
medical industry. There are a couple of very large companies doing
views over an IP backbone down here. Radiology is very big on
networking. They send your films or videos over the network to where
the Radiologist is. For examp
public
internet? What are the bandwidth demands?
Not a good reason for extensive local peering, but a very interesting
application.
- Dan
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> I agree with everything said Stephen except the
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add up quickly. I once read that
the most people wil tolerate on a regular basis is around 150-180 ms.
I think that is much too high for regular use
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Actually the way it seems to work is head over to the local server,
and the radiologist goes through several patients at a time, taking
not of any notations the techie made on the film. I do not think
most are emergencies or code blues, just someone coming in with a
pain etc. 5min probably w
/02, just me wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, David Diaz wrote:
In the real world however, yes, off several dsl links Im seeing those
levels to various sites, I think it's more a factor of congested
peering links or traffic aggregation at a hub. People arent spending
the money to upgrade
;s
concerns.
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does seem that most hostile groups out there are more interested
in something more gory then saying "ha we have denied the infidels
their spam this week..."
At 13:28 + 11/27/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, David Diaz wrote:
I think this is old news. There wa
; less so for rural
areas. Why should this shock anyone? Imminent death of the 'net is
*not predicted ;-)
Eliot
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of conclusions.
And therein lies the problem! Plenty of room for theorising tho!
Steve
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I would be more likely to say that, then he need be a physician with
management skills. I think Dan made this point already in his post.
I have tremendous respect for physicians having grown up in that
field. But they tend to be so smart that they get themselves in
trouble, or have trouble k
I have to disagree with you. I dont think most of their customers
are adult content or the likes looking for cheap transit. I think
there model was to attract business users that wouldnt use the full
pipe. They can burst but arent expected to saturate the pipe 24x7.
It's not a bad model, bu
Well I believe some are doing consulting. And expensive is relative.
I think their multimillion investment with worth more then a couple
of guys salaries.
Different peers want to see different things. Some want balanced
traffic, certain traffic levels, number of locations etc etc. Many
of t
m the larger, more stable company AOL... Might not be common
peering sense, but damn good business sense
Further, if L3/Cogent are settlement-free and both parties are interested
in growing the size of their peering connections, wouldn't it make better
sense
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and keep saturating its Level3 peering connectivity at other locations. Any
thoughts?
-Basil
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transit contracts are rightpriced, and we
reach some kind of equilibrium between the value and cost of traffic, then
some kind of technological argument about peering might hold some sway.
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yone
does that it's good for ISP's in general? It seems to me you want
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know of a maint page they have?
Thought this also might be helpful to any ISPs with a large amount of users.
David
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etwork interconnection? Many vendors proclaim
interoperability, but does that work in the real world?
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Actually I forgot to mention. Since we have different frequencies
for the lasers, you and your peer would have to agree ahead of time
and stock that particular frequency or "color." IT's a major
stocking nightmare especially for spares. The real explosion may
occur as tunable lasers drop in
ly but I
really thing we need to start hypothesizing about where we see this
scaling.
David
At 21:17 -0700 1/6/03, brett watson wrote:
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iption of the switched network. We havent seen that at
this layer yet. Very scary if not managed correctly.
David
At 1:08 -0500 1/7/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:57:29 EST, David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
At this point it's pretty clear that unless y
Im finding it reachable at the moment. But MSN messenger just
started having problems again. 18:29. Let's see if it disappears
quickly this time. They may be cutting something over.
David
At 14:22 -0800 1/9/03, Matt Thoene wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2003 @ 2:11:02 PM [-0700], Oscar Vald
Actually I know there was something of an IX starting down there
about 1999. I believe it was in the small cellular companies
facility. One of the guys from Netrail, Nathan Estes, went down to
help them out for a week. The name escapes me but perhaps he could
post it here if he recalls the
twork and hit uunet.
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kbone sizes are
the constricting factor, not peering circuits or optical VPN circuits
at the optical IX.
Any feedback, devil's advocate position, voodoo or "other" is welcome.
Dave
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Would some of these
technologies have exacerbated the problems we saw. Trying to get
better feedback on the future issues, so far some of the offline
comments and perspectives have been helpful and inciteful as well as
yours...
Dave
At 20:12 + 1/30/03, Vijay Gill wrote:
David Diaz <[EM
At 6:54 + 1/31/03, Vijay Gill wrote:
David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
was to "pay" for what you used when you used it. The biggest
technical factor was "how the heck do you bill it."
Actually I'd think the biggest technical factor would be the t
to pay for the network even when it isn't being used. Basically
you have three billing principles, pay per usage, pay for the
service, a mix of the two. With all the models you still need to
distribute the cost over bandwidth and in worst case this will end
up being higher per transfer
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Yep coming to my nanog email addy.
My email box has started receiving a bunch of emails recently (earlier this
evening) with a 80k zip attachment called "your_details.zip" and either
"re:movie" and "re:application" from a whole bunch of other address I have
never heard of..
New spam technique or s
addresses, and they
are attaching viruses.
The IP address (which may or may not be accurate) appears to be
[195.157.87.253].
Has anyone else noticed this recently?
Dave
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Forwarding this for Mark, he deserved some credit for verifying the
IP but did not want his other addy harvested.
It's like you need a wing man now for posting to mail lists!
Cougar
Subject: Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list
From: "Mark J. Scheller"
To: David Diaz &l
Yea I saw that yesterday. Wasnt sure that was nanog material. But
the most interesting fact left out on this summery was the ability to
"dope" the fiber with elements like sodium. It seems the little
creatures can do things naturally that was havent a clue how to do in
the lab.
Also they se
Yep, if memory serves Bellsouth had 23. 1 for each one of the 22
latas and the 23rd was the dereg'ed ASN that would come after LD
relief. Makes it hard to even talk about peering with other
companies. Image when they ask for your ASN and you tell them u dont
know offhand, u have to email the
I guess it depends on your traffic type and destination. Level 3 has
a lot of connectivity to content providers such as yahoo and
microsoft. As Joel P pointed out they have been a reliable backbone
with a lot of capacity.
They also have knowledgeable peering people although they lean
towards
Can anyone in London provide details on the outage... are any colos
on generator?
dave
Rodney,
Thanks for the announcement. I now have something to forward when
people wonder why a domain update can take 24hrs. For those of us
not on 50 lists a one time post to nanog like this is a big help.
Dave
At 6:03 -0700 9/5/03, Rodney Joffe wrote:
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The list is extremely quiet on Net Neutrality. I cannot find a single
post. I thought this would be a good debate topic. The usual gov
regulation vs free market argument along side the RBOC vs Everyone
else topic.
David
voip service will be
affected.
I see that as an operational issue. Whether all packets should be
treated equally.
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> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:18:24 EDT, David Diaz said:
> > The list is extremely quiet on Net Neutrality. I canno
Being that Miami is my home town. I found it interesting today that in areas
affected by the black out services like verizon EVDO lost their backbone
connections. The towers were up with signal but no one could get to the IP
gateway. Driving a few miles to a lit area provided connectivity.
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