Re: NETGEAR in the core...

2005-08-02 Thread Andy Davidson
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:41:54PM -0400, Robert E.Seastrom wrote: > "Cisco 1700 series" or "Cisco 2600XM" would be nice answers if their > price had the decimal point moved one place to the left. Looks like a Cisco 1760 is $1086.65 'on the street' (well, online actually). Whereas the Cisco 83

Re: /8 end user assignment?

2005-08-05 Thread Andy Davidson
Christopher L. Morrow wrote: will the v6 access really be enough to require LB's? or are they there for other reasons (global lb for content close to customers, regionalized content) perhaps reasons which would matter 'less' in an initial v6 world where you were getting the lb's fixed by their v

Re: /8 end user assignment?

2005-08-05 Thread Andy Davidson
Randy Bush wrote: Until such devices support IPv6, to reiterate Steve's point, it's not an option to consider approaching connectivity suppliers with IPv6 enquiries. could you comment on christopher's observation that, given the likely volume of v6 traffic, you would not have a v6 load worth ba

Re: /8 end user assignment?

2005-08-05 Thread Andy Davidson
Joel Jaeggli wrote: LVS which rather a lot of people use for load balancing supports ipv6 and has since 2002 This is what I binned in favour of Redline. I don't know whether you're balancing HTTP or something else, but if you are balancing web traffic, then you may get much better performanc

Re: Way OT: RE: @Home's 119 domain names up for sale

2005-08-12 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, With apologies to the topic fairies .. Crist Clark wrote: It matters how you look at income taxes (figures never lie, but liars figure). The top 3% of earners pay about 40% of all income taxes. The top 1/12% pay about 10% of the taxes. Why do the super rich guys want a flat tax? And the ot

Re: recommendations for 3rd party web site monitoring

2005-08-17 Thread Andy Davidson
Matt Bazan wrote: In need of external 3rd party site monitoring solution. Nothing fancy. Need to be alerted if site (HTTP/S, SMTP, TCP connect based) goes down (email, pager). Off list fine, thanks. http://www.alertsite.com/ give us http availability which we can configure to alert us in a

Re: Replacing PSTN with VoIP wise? Was Re: Phone networks struggle in Hurricane Katrina's wake

2005-08-31 Thread Andy Davidson
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: There are two types of VoIP: voice over a private, tightly controlled IP network, and voice over the public internet. Now obviously the latter is a risky proposition, as it imports all the limitations of the internet into the voice service. I'm not so sure; som

Re: [Pr-plan] Public-Root resolution problems and UNIDT (fwd)

2005-09-30 Thread Andy Davidson
Peter Dambier wrote: The Ankara root injected a number of older records into the DNS resulting in false answers to queries. Ankara was also listing as root servers some DNS that pointed back to ICANN data and did not resolve the Public-Root. This was very unprofessional behavior on behalf of UNI

Re: Equal access to content

2005-11-03 Thread Andy Davidson
Sean Donelan wrote: Should content suppliers be required to provide equal access to all networks? Or can content suppliers enter into exclusive contracts? Erm .. the content 'belongs' to the supplier, why shouldn't they be allowed to chose who can and can't get access to it. The electronic

Re: Google DNS problems?!?

2005-05-08 Thread Andy Davidson
ed in some way. One MX record doesn't mean one machine and no load-balancing by any means. -- Regards, Andy Davidson http://www.fotoserve.com/ Great quality photo prints, gifts and clothing from digital photos.

Re: QWest is having some pretty nice DNS issues right now

2006-01-08 Thread Andy Davidson
Steve Gibbard wrote: So from my uninformed vantage point, it looks like they started doing this more or less right -- two servers or clusters of servers in two different facilities, a few thousand miles apart on different power grids and not subject to the same natural disasters. In other wor

Re: Password Security and Distribution

2006-02-09 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, Embarassingly late reply; I've been away. On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 10:48:45AM -0500, Jeremy Stinson wrote: > We are in the need for a better mechanism for sharing passwords between our > engineers. Most of these passwords are for our client's systems where some > of them are controlling

Re: Fed Bill Would Restrict Web Server Logs

2006-02-14 Thread Andy Davidson
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On 2/14/06, Jon R. Kibler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "A bill just announced in Congress would require every Web site operator to delete information about visitors, including e-mail addresses, if the data is no longer required for a "legitimate" business purpose. O

Re: a truly radical proposal

2006-02-16 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Feb 2006, at 18:05, Edward B. DREGER wrote: RIRs refuse to grant ASNs to dual-homed leaves. Transit providers _must_ cooperate with each other. Introducing the greater risk of blackholes, and potentially increasing the complexity and size of the routing table. In one of our facil

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-16 Thread Andy Davidson
On 16 Feb 2006, at 14:56, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote: We have a PI /24 we'd like to advertise out of our primary data center for production use. (Well, actually, we'll be advertising a more specific from our /21 assignment, so already not too friendly... but I digress.) [...] I'm think

Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Davidson
On 21 Feb 2006, at 16:26, Jason Frisvold wrote: Key words there.. "Large Provider" .. I don't think A/V companies have any interest whatsoever in smaller providers.. Just not a big enough customer base I guess... It would be nice to see an A/V provider willing to take that first step and off

Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

2006-03-03 Thread Andy Davidson
Mark Newton wrote: I mean, who accepts prefixes longer than /24 these days anyway? We've all decided that we "can live without" any network smaller than 254 hosts and it hasn't made a lick of difference to universal reachability. What's to stop someone who wants to carry around less prefixes f

Re: Shim6 vs PI addressing

2006-03-06 Thread Andy Davidson
Roland Dobbins wrote: On Mar 3, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > OTOH, hosts go a lot longer between upgrades and generally don't have > professional admins. It'll be a long, long time (if ever) until shim6 > is deployed widely enough for folks to literally bet their company on

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks

2006-03-20 Thread Andy Davidson
Joseph S D Yao wrote: [...] service except perhaps to their own population, than against what can you compare the DNS service that you are getting, to see whether it is giving you what "the world" should be seeing? DNS looking glasses, in much the same way that we use web-form based BGP or tr

Juniper Support pricing.

2006-03-23 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, Has anyone else seen Juniper support pricing take one hell of a hike in the past twelve months ? We've been quoted a rise of 141% on the costs of supporting our ISG2000 units, and a 114% rise on the costs of supporting our Redline^WJuniper E|X devices. I've been asked to provide a ca

Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

2006-04-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Alexander Koch wrote: > When a random customer (content hoster) asks you to accept > something out of 8/8 that is Level(3) space, and there is no > route at this moment in the routing table, do you accept it, > or does Level(3) have some fancy written

Re: IP failover/migration question.

2006-06-27 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, guys Very late reply, but this is a 'hot topic' in my space.. On 12 Jun 2006, at 04:02, Randy Bush wrote: I'm trying to get a more clear understanding as to what is involved in terms of moving the IPs, and how fast it can potentially be done. can we presume that separate ip spaces and

Re: IP failover/migration question.

2006-06-27 Thread Andy Davidson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Davidson wrote: 24 hours + outage whilst stale dns disappears will never do in internet retail. And yet, with 90% of the net implementing the "will never do" scenario, we manage to get a lot of internet retail done anyhow. I'm obviously

Re: inter-domain link recovery

2007-08-15 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Aug 2007, at 08:07, Chengchen Hu wrote: Just suppose no business fators (like multiple ASes belongs to a same ISP), is it always possible for BGP to automatically find an alternative path when failure occurs if exist one? If not, what may be the causes? I think everyone here has

Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion)

2007-08-25 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, David, everyone -- On 21 Aug 2007, at 17:55, David Lesher wrote: And still not getting it. A friend oversees various expensive USG networks. They pay for physically diverse routing from multiple sources. Yet every year, when they do an laborious audit down to the "what fiber, in what bund

Re: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?

2007-09-16 Thread Andy Davidson
On 16 Sep 2007, at 07:39, Martin Hannigan wrote: On 9/15/07, Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Browsers are pretty good at falling back on a different address in general / IPv4 in particular when the initial try doesn't work, "Pretty good" as in there is a browser standard to p

Re: Apple Airport Extreme IPv6 problems?

2007-09-16 Thread Andy Davidson
On 16 Sep 2007, at 15:13, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: We see the browser cache bite us regularly with regard to the way they dip into the cache for long-stale records today. Does browser caching still work these days? I thought all web admins disabled it on their servers because they can't

Re: Standard prefix length filtering

2007-09-19 Thread Andy Davidson
, but a general rule is the more you de-aggregate the more problems you are going to have, so unless you have a very good reason not to, announce the /22 and nothing longer. Best wishes, Andy Davidson.

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-08 Thread Andy Davidson
On 8 Oct 2007, at 13:06, Roland Perry wrote: Surely the incumbent doesn't impose a cost on the bandwidth along the local loop - the bottleneck (and cost per gigabyte) is the backhaul from their locally operated DSLAM to the ISP's own network. Yes, and it's £1,758,693 ($3.5m) PA for a 622M

Re: How Not to Multihome

2007-10-09 Thread Andy Davidson
On 8 Oct 2007, at 22:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a client that wants us to advertise an IP block assigned by another ISP. I know that the best practice is to have them request an AS number from ARIN and peer with us, etc. However, I cannot find any information that states as law

Re: How Not to Multihome

2007-10-09 Thread Andy Davidson
On 9 Oct 2007, at 18:48, Leo Vegoda wrote: On 9 Oct 2007, at 17:47, Andy Davidson wrote: However, if a different third-party network then sweeps up their routing table by looking to remove more specifics that seem 'spoofed' using IRR data, the routes you intend to push onto the

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On 14 Oct 2007, at 01:26, Jim Popovitch wrote: - New Media / Web 2.0 HUH? I understand what Lorell means - the web 2.0 scaling model is to throw resources, rather than intelligence at your bottlenecks. I met some 'web 2' people at a conference quite recently, and they were telli

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:33, John Payne wrote: To answer the OP's question I'd be looking at manually filtering the more specifics if they are also sending the aggregates through the IX. The customer's customer is still going to see *your* routes via the MLP, unless (without knowing what e

Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Davidson
On 7 Nov 2007, at 12:50, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: You sure XO hasn't been playing with banner delays, and your MTA is timing out before establishing an smtp connection? Yep [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ time telnet dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com 25 Trying 207.88.96.46... telnet: Unable to connect t

Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Davidson
refused to the example I gave them - dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com. Many thanks Andy -- Regards, Andy Davidson // Engineering Localphone Limited http://www.localphone.com +44-(0)114-3191919 // Sheffield, UK

Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Davidson
On 7 Nov 2007, at 14:01, Tim Jackson wrote: Contact your account manager, they can get it fixed in about an hour w/ an internal IT ticket. They were doing the same thing to us. I don't open a business relationship with everyone that my users want to email. :-)

Re: Postmaster Operator List?

2007-11-19 Thread Andy Davidson
On 16 Nov 2007, at 15:54, Justin Scott wrote: Is there a mailing list similar to NANOG specifically for e-mail operations? I've seen some smaller lists around that deal with specific issues (spam, etc.) but have not seen a general postmaster operations mailing list, though I'm sure there h

Re: IPv4 BGP Table Reduction Analysis - Prefixes Filter by RIRs Minimum Allocations Boundaries

2007-12-02 Thread Andy Davidson
On 29 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Eduardo Ascenco Reis wrote: Although the BGP data is around one month old and the original focus was on Brazilian AS and IP prefixes, the general analysis covers all Regional Internet Registries (RIRs). [...] The methodology shows a good efficiency (around 40%) re

Re: IPv4 BGP Table Reduction Analysis - Prefixes Filter by RIRs Minimum Allocations Boundaries

2007-12-03 Thread Andy Davidson
On 2 Dec 2007, at 20:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:59:19 EST, Andy Davidson said: On 29 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Eduardo Ascenco Reis wrote: The methodology shows a good efficiency (around 40%) reducing BGP table size, but the estimated number of affect prefixes are also

Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Davidson
On 19 Dec 2007, at 11:58, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: So, out of our /32, if we assign each customer a /48 we can only support 65k customers. So in order to support millions of customers, we need a new allocation and I would really like for each new subnet allocated to be very much larger so

Re: /48 for each and every endsite (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?)

2007-12-19 Thread Andy Davidson
On 19 Dec 2007, at 12:24, Jeroen Massar wrote: Andy Davidson wrote: [..] From the RIPE perspective, there are seven "empty" /32s between my /32 and the next allocation. I imagine this is fully intentional, and allows the NCC to grow my v6 address pool, without growing my footpr

Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-09 Thread Andy Davidson
On 9 Jan 2008, at 20:04, Deepak Jain wrote: I remember Bill Norton's peering forum regarding P2P traffic and how the majority of it is between cable and other broadband providers... Operationally, why not just lash a few additional 10GE cross-connects and let these *paying customers* comm

Fwd: UKNOF9: London, Monday 14th January - Agenda

2008-01-10 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, For the small number of us in the UK who have not seen this notification, the ninth UKNOF meeting is going to happen on Monday - there are some spaces left, so why not visit and meet some of your counterparts in the industry ? For those who are not local, remote participation is ava

Re: BGP Filtering

2008-01-19 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Jan 2008, at 16:11, Ben Butler wrote: As a transit consumer - why would I want to carry all this cr*p in my routing table, I would still be getting a BGP route to the larger prefix anyway - let my transit feeds sort out which route they use & traffic engineering. Maybe you don't get

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

2008-01-19 Thread Andy Davidson
On 17 Jan 2008, at 12:45, Jeff McAdams wrote: Tony Li wrote: On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Mike Donahue wrote: Anyway, it's all getting (for us) pretty complicated. We're a fairly small firm and just want an Ethernet handoff with our IP block on it. Sprint didn't blink at the request, bu

Re: Lessons from the AU model (was: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial)

2008-01-20 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, On 20 Jan 2008, at 16:37, Andrew Odlyzko wrote: The more sensible end of town pays about $80 per month for about 40 Gbytes of quota, give or take, depending on the ISP. After that they get shaped to 64 kbps unless they want to pay more for more quota. I replied offlist to Andrew wi

Re: Lessons from the AU model

2008-01-20 Thread Andy Davidson
On 21 Jan 2008, at 00:16, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Andy Davidson wrote: - Am I peering widely enough ? Should I actually be stuffing a switch under the floor in my employer's suite and letting my buddies plug in ? Peeringdb knows about eight exchanges in a developed economy

Re: Lessons from the AU model

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Davidson
On 21 Jan 2008, at 01:43, Martin Barry wrote: $quoted_author = "Andy Davidson" ; .. think about what happens when your customers' routes start appearing through your MLP session as well. Standard practice would be to localpref customer routes over peering routes.[...]

Re: Lessons from the AU model

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Davidson
On 21 Jan 2008, at 14:02, Marshall Eubanks wrote: OK, I give and admit my ignorance. What does "MLP" mean in this context ? A google search for "Australia mlp" reveals many hits for "My Little Pony," which somehow I doubt is the intended meaning on this list. Smile... Here it stands f

Re: Cost per prefix [was: request for help w/ ATT and terminology]

2008-01-23 Thread Andy Davidson
On 22 Jan 2008, at 17:30, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: Hmm, who gets paid? It sounds like your hinting around a telco-type reciprocal payment model (correct me if I'm wrong). Do I pay my upstreams who in turn pay there upstreams and so on and so on? Or, is there some central, uber-

Re: Cost per prefix [was: request for help w/ ATT and terminology]

2008-01-23 Thread Andy Davidson
On 23 Jan 2008, at 17:24, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Davidson) writes: People pay the RIRs. The RIRs spend money on parties for network operators. ... according to <http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/budget.html> for 2007 and <http://www.arin.net/about_us/

Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-25 Thread Andy Davidson
On 25 Jan 2008, at 10:42, Roland Perry wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes Tunnels all over the place seems like the only way it'd even be halfway practical. It's more-or-less how phone number portability works anyway, from what (little) I know. I

Re: Question on the topology of Internet Exchange Points

2008-02-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On 14 Feb 2008, at 17:02, Kai Chen wrote: A typical Internet Exchange Point (IXP) consists of one or more network switches, to which each of the participating ISPs connect. We call it the exchange-based topology. My question is if some current IXPs use directly-connected topology, in whic

Re: Customer-facing ACLs

2008-03-18 Thread Andy Davidson
On 7 Mar 2008, at 23:57, Scott Weeks wrote: Might as well do TCP 20, 21 and 23, too. Woah, that slope's getting slippery! Oh, no, this one again. *** The Internet Is Not The Web. *** Could someone put that onto a t-shirt ? If it becomes normal for home users to only have 80 and 443, th

OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling

2006-11-28 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to get them every few days. We don't need their product. We've tried saying no, and additionally we've tried putting people on hold indefinitely, trying to be enough of a nuisance to drop off their sales call list (works with UK telcos

Re: OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling

2006-11-29 Thread Andy Davidson
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 16:44 +, Paul Vixie wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Davidson) writes: > > I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to get them every > > few days. We don't need their product. > every month or two somebody will ask me "does

Re: The IESG Approved the Expansion of the AS Number Registry

2006-12-01 Thread Andy Davidson
On 30 Nov 2006, at 07:02, Chris L. Morrow wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Deepak Jain wrote: Afraid so. I'm hoping to be out of the industry before calls for 128 bit AS#s come down the pipe and people (at that time) are laughing about how silly 32 bit AS#s seem. anyone have a swag at the numb

Re: today's Wash Post Business section

2006-12-21 Thread Andy Davidson
name ... -- Regards, Andy Davidson Consultant Systems and Network Engineer, Devonshire IT Limited http://www.devonshire.it/ - 0844 704 704 7 - Sheffield, UK

Re: Phishing and BGP Blackholing

2007-01-03 Thread Andy Davidson
ing to talk about this at Toronto ? Trying to justify taking a week 'off' to visit ... ;-) -- Regards, Andy Davidson http://www.devonshire.it/ - 0844 704 704 7 - Sheffield, UK

Re: AS41961 not seen in many networks

2007-01-05 Thread Andy Davidson
wo of them, eventually through 'LambdaNet' on both. -a -- Regards, Andy Davidson Consultant Systems and Network Engineer, Devonshire IT Limited http://www.devonshire.it/ - 0844 704 704 7 - Sheffield, UK

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-15 Thread Andy Davidson
On 12 Jan 2007, at 15:26, Gian Constantine wrote: I am pretty sure we are not becoming a VoD world. Linear programming is much better for advertisers. I do not think content providers, nor consumers, would prefer a VoD only service. A handful of consumers would love it, but many would not

Re: DNS Query Question

2007-01-22 Thread Andy Davidson
everything else will still lose a few percentage of inbound packets ... Unless you want to outsource your entire hosting to someone on the list. ;-) -- Regards, Andy Davidson http://www.devonshire.it/ - 0844 704 704 7 - Sheffield, UK

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-24 Thread Andy Davidson
On 23 Jan 2007, at 16:48, Sean Donelan wrote: Why is IP required, Because using something that works so well means less wheel reinvention. and even if you used IP for transport why must the meter identification be based on an IP address? Idenification via IP address (exclusively) is bad

Re: Birmingham UK colocation

2007-01-30 Thread Andy Davidson
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 12:56 -0800, Andrew Gristina wrote: > I have two racks in London UK. The colocation is > currently in London. The contract is up soon and most > of the feet on the ground in the UK of the company is > in the greater Birmingham area. So I'm interested in > colocating about t

Re: single homed public-peer bandwidth ... pricing survey ?

2007-03-07 Thread Andy Davidson
On 6 Mar 2007, at 21:51, Jason Arnaute wrote: But, I am charged between $150 and $180 per megabit/s for non- redundant, single-homed bandwidth (not sure which provider they put it on) and even if I commit to 20 or 30 megabits/s it still only drops down to $100 - $120 per megabit/s. [...]

Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)

2007-03-20 Thread Andy Davidson
On 13 Mar 2007, at 20:31, Roland Dobbins wrote: On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Daniel Senie wrote: A universal service charge could be applied to all bills, with the funds going to subsidize rural areas. This is already done in the U.S., to no discernible effect. That isn't *quite* the

Re: Jumbo frames

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Davidson
On 28 Mar 2007, at 00:28, Jim Shankland wrote: Jumbo frames seem to help a lot when trying to max out a 10 GbE link, which is what the Internet land speed record guys have been doing. At 45 Mb/s, I'd be very surprised if it bought you more than 2-4% in additional throughput. It's worth a

Re: On-going Internet Emergency and Domain Names

2007-04-03 Thread Andy Davidson
On 2 Apr 2007, at 21:21, Lasher, Donn wrote: Rather, I thought a lot more providers would actually be blocking outbound 25 except to their SMTP servers. Just brought up a new mail server for a friend; moved an old (14+ year) domain.. I was amazed at the number of connections from rr.com, c

Re: ICANNs role [was: Re: On-going ...]

2007-04-03 Thread Andy Davidson
On 3 Apr 2007, at 03:02, Gadi Evron wrote: What are your thoughts on basic suggestions such as: 1. Allowing registrars to terminate domains based on abuse, rather than just fake contact details. I don't like this because its impossible to define abuse clearly enough in this context. If

Re: Colocation facilities in britian

2007-05-18 Thread Andy Davidson
On 16 May 2007, at 17:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have ballpark costs on what colo space costs in England. Space costs lots and lots in central London where connectivity is cheaper. There are datacentres away from London which are much less expensive, but connectivity tends