Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...)

2006-02-17 Thread Michael . Dillon
> > Geo-topological addressing refers to RIRs reserving large > > blocks of designated addresses for areas served my large > > cities (over 100,000) population. When end users are located > > in fringe areas roughly equidistant between two or more such > > centers, the RIR simply asks the end user

Drone Army (how to contact)?

2006-02-17 Thread infowolfe
I'd really like to know how I can get ahold of the people that do the Drone Army reports, as I am a serveradmin on an irc network that was identified as being abusive. If you're responding as part of the Drone Army, please reply to me off list. Allen Parker

The Cidr Report

2006-02-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 17 21:46:53 2006 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Hist

RE: metric 0 vs 'no metric at all'

2006-02-17 Thread Doug Marschke
And just to update, those drafts have made it into RFC 4271 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4271.txt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny McPherson Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: metric 0 vs 'no met

Weekly Routing Table Report

2006-02-17 Thread Routing Table Analysis
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 18 Feb, 2006

Re: Drone Army (how to contact)?

2006-02-17 Thread infowolfe
No need anymore, I've already spoken with both Gadi and Randy on the matter that concerned me. Thanks, Allen On 2/17/06, Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > cc'ing Gadi. > > On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:10 AM, infowolfe wrote: > > > > > I'd really like to know how I can get ahold of the peopl

Peering BOF XI Meeting Minutes ----- D R A F T

2006-02-17 Thread William B. Norton
Peering BOF XI Meeting Minutes Facilitator: William B. Norton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Agenda 1. Notes from the Field - wbn 2. ad Hoc Transit Survey – Dave Wodelet 3. Paid Peering as an Adjunct to Settlement Free Interconnect (15 min). -wbn 4. The Great Peering Debate (30 min) ras, ianai 5. Peering Con

MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Jon R. Kibler
Greetings all, Would anyone who has every done MLPPP over MPLS care to share their experiences with this type of network? We have a customer that is implementing an MPLS network that will have 2 to 6 T1 feeds at some locations that will be using MLPPP for channel bonding. This is a telco provi

RE: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Erik Amundson
I've used MLPPP before with T1s...not the hardest thing to do...in fact, MLFR is a little bigt nastier, but still nothing that the average CCNA couldn't wrap their brain around... Erik Amundson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon R. Kib

Re: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Jon R. Kibler wrote: We have a customer that is implementing an MPLS network that will have 2 to 6 T1 feeds at some locations that will be using MLPPP for channel bonding. This is a telco provided network that will be customer managed. It's not clear from your message, b

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Todd Vierling
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Warren Kumari wrote: > If your primary is connected to ISP_A and the backup is connected to ISP_B, > customers connected to ISP_B MAY still flow to your backup DC (ISP_B will > probably set local preference on all customer routes - you should be able to > override this behavi

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Todd Vierling wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Warren Kumari wrote: > > > If your primary is connected to ISP_A and the backup is connected to ISP_B, > > customers connected to ISP_B MAY still flow to your backup DC (ISP_B will > > probably set local preference on all customer

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Todd Vierling
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > If your primary is connected to ISP_A and the backup is connected to > > > ISP_B, > > > customers connected to ISP_B MAY still flow to your backup DC (ISP_B will > > > probably set local preference on all customer routes - you should be abl

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Todd Vierling
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Todd Vierling wrote: > > I might be crazy, but couldn't you just prepend the route enough to > > effectively poison it at ingress to 'backup-isp' ? > > Some route decision override schemes don't care what the path length is at > all, or factor it in with such a low weight, su

Re: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
What I heard from Cisco is that there may be some issue with MLPPP and MPLS - maybe QoS? -. The issue is for general IOS support issue for MLPPP/MPLS combination. For that reason, Cisco recommended Multi-link Frame Relay(MLFR) to overcome that issue. Hyun Jon R. Kibler wrote: > Greetings all, >

Re: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Jon R. Kibler
Hyunseog Ryu wrote: > > What I heard from Cisco is that there may be some issue with MLPPP and > MPLS - maybe QoS? -. > The issue is for general IOS support issue for MLPPP/MPLS combination. > For that reason, Cisco recommended Multi-link Frame Relay(MLFR) to > overcome that issue. > > Hyun > H

[operational update] Looking behind the smoke screen of the Internet

2006-02-17 Thread Gadi Evron
You can find the information and update here: http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/298 Apparently nanog drops email messages with long subject lines. Thanks, Gadi. -- http://blogs.securiteam.com/ "Out of the box is where I live". -- Cara "Starbuck" Thrace, Battlest

Re: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-17 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Maybe next monday I can ask for detailed info, but I wasn't on the meeting to discuss this in detail. Based on outcome of discussion with Cisco, we decided to go with MLFR instead of MLPPP. Hyun Jon R. Kibler wrote: > Hyunseog Ryu wrote: > >> What I heard from Cisco is that there may be some

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Warren Kumari
On Feb 17, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Todd Vierling wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Warren Kumari wrote: If your primary is connected to ISP_A and the backup is connected to ISP_B, customers connected to ISP_B MAY still flow to your backup DC (ISP_B

Exchange Points

2006-02-17 Thread sjk
We're a small facilities based ISP in Chicago and I am looking for a public exchange point for peering. I have been told, by someone at SBC, that the public NAP here is no longer accepting connections and is essentially going to shut down over time. Has anyone else heard this? Are there other

Re: Exchange Points

2006-02-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:46:34PM -0600, sjk wrote: > > We're a small facilities based ISP in Chicago and I am looking for a > public exchange point for peering. I have been told, by someone at SBC, > that the public NAP here is no longer accepting connections and is > essentially going to sh

Re: Disaster recovery using as-prepend?

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Feb 17, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > I might be crazy, but couldn't you just prepend the route enough to > > effectively poison it at ingress to 'backup-isp' ? so they kept > > chosing > > the remote path and never really acc