On 10/21/05, David Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 02:28:23AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 09:26:06AM +0300, Emilian Ursu wrote:> > >> > > I see its completely down and several o
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 09:26:06AM +0300, Emilian Ursu wrote:
> >
> > I see its completely down and several others are starting
> > to have problems.
> > Anyone knows whats up ?
>
> They're giving out master ticket #'s of 1429209 1429184 and 1429189
> depending on who you talk to apparently (
Re Owen,
Just a short (ok, now I read it again, it's grown...) answer to
the list, but you're right, we might continue this in private.
(Reply-To set)
Thanks for being so patient explaining everything, and for
discussing with a (still somewhat) hairy-head like myself :-)
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Anyone get anything useful out of L3 yet?
Dave
From: John van Oppen (list account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am getting fast busy signals on all my Washington based
> level3 DID numbers at the moment...
>
> A level3 full peer up here seems to only seek 68k routes...
> not so good (
Still voice greeting... "Level(3) is experiencing a wide spread network
instability"
-Vikas
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Anyone
Just got off the phone with Level(3)... "Bonnie". She's saying that they
are experiencing a large-scale routing problem (duh) and that they estimate
one more hour...
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On 10/21/05, David Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyone get anything useful out of L3 yet?
In Italy service has been restored at 9.39 CET, or at least my BGP
sessions came up at that time. Traffic is flowing fine, I can reach USA
and all other locations with no trouble. .
-- I'm Winston Wolf,
Marco Matarazzo wrote:
On 10/21/05, David Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyone get anything useful out of L3 yet?
In Italy service has been restored at 9.39 CET, or at least my BGP sessions
came up at that time. Traffic is flowing fine, I can reach USA and all other
locations with no
PAIX, (Palo Alto, CA) -- service back online...
Tustin, (Orange County, CA) -- service back online
North Las Vegas -- service back online
-Vikas
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I still see my link in San Francisco - China Basin still offline... probably
a matter of time.
-Vikas
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> ISPs who wish to connect customers who have allocations from the
> multihoming space must
>
> a) announce the whole space aggregated
> b) peer with other providers who host other customers
As mentioned, this huge aggregate attracts unwanted traffic.
It would make more sense if this so-called
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Hi,
Apologies if this is not deemed operational enough. Further to the
debate about prefixes / v6 / multihomeing etc etc. The growing size of
the route table, de-aged networks and increasing cor
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 07:49 -0400, Joe Maimon wrote:
> C)
>
> - end node performs locator lookup
> - end node encaps
> - destnode decaps
>
> This could be as easy as performing IPinIP with srv records and DDNS.
There is an 'example possible alternate use' in the following document:
http://unfix
Ben Butler wrote:
> if anyone had a view on what would happen if I managed to source an
> SDRAM of 512MB / 1GB of the same specification as the 256MB Cisco
> compatible memory that you use in an 7200 NPE225. Cisco say the maximum
> ram for that NPE is a pitiful 256MB, I am sure the memory manufa
> behind their gurantee. If it doesn't work, they'll either fix it, or give
> you your money back.
I'm way behind.. just getting caught up on NANOG:
Circa 2000 I got stuck with one of the ImageStream DS3 systems,
tried to return it and get our money back and could not..
Our reason for return
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 21 21:45:55 2005 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report.
Recent Table Hist
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:34:35PM -0700, Peter Boothe wrote:
> So my question is: What do people use ORIGIN: EGP vs ORIGIN: IGP to
> distinguish? What makes a route EGP vs. IGP to you?
Origin is a mandatory transitive attribute which is being used in the
BGP decision algorithm.
If you have
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:18:43 -0700
"Sean Crandall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 09:26:06AM +0300, Emilian Ursu wrote:
> > >
> > > I see its completely down and several others are starting
> > > to have problems.
> > > Anyone knows whats up ?
> >
> > They're giving o
On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:34 AM, Peter Boothe wrote:
What makes you mark routes as ORIGIN: IGP vs ORIGIN: EGP?
I just checked out the latest routeviews snapshot to see what the
origins
of various routes were set to. The command line
$ bzcat oix-full-snapshot-latest.dat.bz2 | sed -e 's/.* //'
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Nils Ketelsen wrote:
I am just guessing here, but if the manufacturer says 256MB is the
maximum, I would expect that the unit is not able to address more than
256MB memory, regardless of the amount you plug in to it.
Occasionally, that's not the case. i.e. the NPE225 was
Nils Ketelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Butler wrote:
>
>> if anyone had a view on what would happen if I managed to source an
>> SDRAM of 512MB / 1GB of the same specification as the 256MB Cisco
>> compatible memory that you use in an 7200 NPE225. Cisco say the maximum
>> ram for that
(apologies to Owen for CC'ng list, his points are valid concerns that I
hadnt addressed or considered properly)
Owen DeLong wrote:
c) Carry a much larger table on a vastly more expensive set of routers
in order to play.
ISPs who dont wish to connect these customers should feel free
> Considering that most people who are in favor of multihoming
> for ipv6 believe that there is customer demand for it, the
> market forces would decide this one.
We have nobody but ourselves to blame for this. If we all ran
networks that worked as well as our customers demand and didn't have
o
Joe Abley is coordinating a set of PGP key signing parties throughout
the NANOG 35 meeting. I know Joe has his hands full with program and
steering committee responsibilities and could use help from others to
ensure keysignings go smoothly.
If you'll be attending any part of the meeting, have a
I'm a reporter with InformationWeek magazine. I'm trying to get an idea of the
significance of this morning's outage. Has Level 3 communicated with you about
the cause of the outage? How greatly did the outage affect you or your
customers? Was this an unusually large event?
Thanks,
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Are you kidding?
-gh
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I'm a reporter with InformationWeek magazine. I'm trying to get an idea
of t
This is a notification we just received regarding Level 3:
Level 3 has resolved their internal issues. They were having some
internal OSPF issues, but are going to send out an official RFO sometime
this morning. For now Internap is turning up each BGP session with Level
3 out of the PNAPs and
> We have nobody but ourselves to blame for this. If we all ran
> networks that worked as well as our customers demand and didn't have
> our petty peering squables every full moon, the market wouldn't
> feel the need to have to dual home.
that's the telco brittle network model, make it so it fail
> that's the telco brittle network model, make it so it fails
> infrequently. this has met with varied success.
One way to look at it:
> the internet model is to expect and route around failure.
this has also met with varied success. :-)
If only I'd had the foresight to configure the all of the
customers I've setup on BGP with Bogon filters, and more
complex routing policies than defaults + provider customer
routes, then I would have made mountains of recurring
revenue from this "maintenance", and I would be reading this
thread in
Neil J. McRae wrote:
Considering that most people who are in favor of multihoming
for ipv6 believe that there is customer demand for it, the
market forces would decide this one.
We have nobody but ourselves to blame for this. If we all ran
networks that worked as well as our customers demand
Vicky Rode wrote:
Thinking out loud.
I guess some sort of trust model would help similar to what nsp-sec has
in place (not sure its current state).
It could be nice if there was some sort of a consensus among this
consortium to distribute executive health metrics with the help of some
secure t
Gary,
I understand your statement, but I am sure the gentleman below does not.
If you want a story to be done, so that the world can see how something
like this can impact thousands of businesses, the best bet would be to
help educate this guy so that he has something to write.
Are, were y
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Andre Oppermann wrote:
Here we see again that the secrecy ("to prevent terrorism") of this
information costs more than having it in the open as the FCC did in
the past. The whole terrorism sham was just a convenient excuse to
prevent outsiders from assessing the quality of
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
the internet model is to expect and route around failure.
randy
That precludes agreement on a definition of "failure". In recent
weeks we have once again learned that a large fuzzy fringe around
any sort of 100% consensus makes life interesting.
F
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Authoritative sources report that Verio coincidentally had major problems
last night also:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/10/21/two_tierone_isps_are.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/21/0958232
("is this the end for Level3?" heh)
Odd.
The last time there was major instability du
Hi all -
I'm happy to announce the 10th NANOG Peering BOF will be held in Los
Angeles from 14:00 to 15:30 on Monday. We have a *very* full Peering
BOF agenda:
14:00 Introduction / Welcome - William B. Norton (Equinix)
14:05 Ad Hoc Transit Survey - all
Since the Peering vs. Transit issue conta
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Just taking a quick poll to see if nanog community would consider this
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the internet model is to expect and route around failure.
You cannot stop the last mile backhoes.
Tony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Kruckenberg) writes:
> Authoritative sources report that Verio coincidentally had major problems
> last night also:
we (isc) saw level(3) go away and come back. verio's been normal here though.
--
Paul Vixie
Fellow NANOGers,
Please, do you know any documents and/or links about securing data microwave
links? I am writing a project for MAN interconnection of several buildings with
MW radios and concerned about possible security threats.
TIA,
Marlon Borba, CISSP.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 01:30:05PM -0600, Pete Kruckenberg wrote:
>
> Authoritative sources report that Verio coincidentally had major problems
> last night also:
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2005/10/21/two_tierone_isps_are.html
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/21/0958232
> ("is thi
We got some very weird compaints about applications "hanging." Tracked
it down to reverse lookups timing out. Reverse lookups to RFC1918 space.
Looks like the IANA blackhole servers for RFC1918 are not well?
1 0.0 207.88.152.10 -> 192.175.48.6 DNS C 52.143.18.172.in-addr.arpa.
Internet
> There is not only the multihoming issue but also the PI address issue.
> Even if any ISP would run his network very competently and there
> were no outages we would face the ISP switching issue. Again we
> would end up with either PI addresses announced by the ISP or BGP
> by the customer. With
To me they do answer:
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any 10.in-addr.arpa. @blackhole-1.iana.org.
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20469
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;10.in-addr.arpa. IN ANY
;; ANSWER S
It is probably important to know that those servers are anycasted via the AS112
project (www.as112.net). Perhaps the AS112 operator you are seeing is having
issues. You could try to identify which one and let them know.
Thanks,
John :)
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John van Oppen wrote:
It is probably important to know that those servers are anycasted via the AS112
project (www.as112.net). Perhaps the AS112 operator you are seeing is having
issues. You could try to identify which one and let them know.
Three things:
1) At least one other person rep
Crist Clark wrote:
>
> We got some very weird compaints about applications "hanging." Tracked
> it down to reverse lookups timing out. Reverse lookups to RFC1918 space.
> Looks like the IANA blackhole servers for RFC1918 are not well?
>From my location (Comcast cable modem in LA) I can see the I
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Yo Neil!
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Neil J. McRae wrote:
> If we all ran networks that worked as well as our customers demand...
Some demand low price and some demand high availability. No way to
please everyone.
RGDS
GARY
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Crist Clark wrote:
2) They've been going up and down, so even if you go check and it
works that one time, you may have caught it up.
Something's definitely going on, as the server at ISC seems to be coming
and going in operation.
3) I'd try to ask it which anycast i
Looks like it was ISC? And they withdrewn their routes for a bit?
For a while I got (from XO in CA),
$ host -t txt -c chaos hostname.bind 192.175.48.6
Using domain server 192.175.48.6:
hostname.bind CHAOS descriptive text "black-1.sth.netnod.se"
Goin' transatlantic! Tra
On Friday 21 October 2005 03:12 pm, MARLON BORBA wrote:
> Please, do you know any documents and/or links about securing data
> microwave links? I am writing a project for MAN interconnection of several
> buildings with MW radios and concerned about possible security threats.
Depends on many thing
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