Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Amen, brother. ;-) - ferg -- Chris Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For those outside the state or the US, Texas has some very odd political traditions and laws that are beyond explanation in email. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: 4-Byte AS Number soon to come?

2005-08-24 Thread Daniel Golding
Susan, In light of Geoff Huston's recent article which urged alacrity in finalizing a standard and implementing the eventual solution, where are we in this process? Geoff's article suggest that we have about three years until Internet transit AS's should begin transitioning. Given the QA cycle at

Re: KVM over IP Suggestions?

2005-08-24 Thread Henry Linneweh
Here is an article that addresses some of these very issues, naturally there is always a costing factor, because non of the sought for solutions are easy to come by. http://www.networkcomputing.com/showitem.jhtml?docid=1616f3 -Henry --- Daniel Senie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 12:41 P

List Phishing of e-mails from nanog

2005-08-24 Thread Steve Brown
Sweet, got my first piece of phishing SPAM (to the address I use for this list) shortly after posting a couple of days ago.   Steve  

Iperf or Iperf like test points?

2005-08-24 Thread Walter C. Ames
Initial caveat: If this is off topic please just let me know now and please suggest a good forum for this type of question/discussion. The main premise of the question/discussion is the ability to establish/utilize random (or not so) test points (like looking glasses) scattered across the p

Re: 4-Byte AS Number soon to come?

2005-08-24 Thread Yakov Rekhter
Daniel, > Susan, > > In light of Geoff Huston's recent article which urged alacrity in finalizing > a standard and implementing the eventual solution, where are we in this > process? Geoff's article suggest that we have about three years until > Internet transit AS's should begin transitioning.

Looming VoIP service deadline: Some Internet Phone Customers May Be C ut

2005-08-24 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050824/ap_on_hi_te/internet_phones_e911 - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

Re: 4-Byte AS Number soon to come?

2005-08-24 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> The time it would take it to be deployed depends (among other > factors) on whether the IDR WG would reach a (rough) consensus on > moving forward with the existing spec, even if one may argue that > there could be a better alternative to the existing spec. I don't think we're that short of tim

Re: Cingular Wireless contact?

2005-08-24 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:10:09PM -0700, Steve Gibbard wrote: > This is a mailing list for the wrong sort of network for this question, > but... You're correct. :-) comp.dcom.telecom.tech or alt.dcom.telecom are better places to find this sort of person, or at least, they used to be. Cheers,

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Lewis Butler
On 23 Aug 2005, at 17:04 , Michael Painter wrote: US is trailing other industrial countries in broadband penetration I'm not sure that's the case, AFAIK the US holds its own. Graph at the bottom of the article. http://www.mbc-thebridge.com/viewbridge.cfm?instance_id=304 And what does every

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Joe Abley
On 24-Aug-2005, at 19:16, Lewis Butler wrote: And what does every country ahead of the US have in common? Tiny populations. And waht does every country but one have in common? Very small area. The US has states taht are larger than 10 of the 11 countries ahed of use, COMBINED. (popu

Re: Announcement Propagation Delay in BGP

2005-08-24 Thread Scott Weeks
- Original Message Follows - From: "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Announcement Propagation Delay in BGP Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:22:15 -1000 > I am going to be announcing two new prefixs into BGP soon > and the netgeek in me is very curious as to the lengt

Re: 4-Byte AS Number soon to come?

2005-08-24 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Brandon Butterworth wrote: I don't think we're that short of time that any problems with the spec should be put aside, we'll have to work with the results for some time. It's no good expressing these opinions here though, please give feedback on IDR. There's been very

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Sean Figgins
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joe Abley wrote: > So, of the 11 countries that the OECD thinks have greater broadband > penetration than the USA, 6 are more densely-populated than the USA > and 5 are not. I wonder how they figure population density... Is it just a matter of land area divided by the numbe

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:15:44PM -0600, Sean Figgins wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joe Abley wrote: > > > So, of the 11 countries that the OECD thinks have greater broadband > > penetration than the USA, 6 are more densely-populated than the USA > > and 5 are not. > > I wonder how they figu

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Daniel Golding
On 8/24/05 7:38 PM, "Joe Abley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 24-Aug-2005, at 19:16, Lewis Butler wrote: > >> And what does every country ahead of the US have in common? Tiny >> populations. >> >> And waht does every country but one have in common? Very small >> area. The US has state

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Joe Abley
On 24-Aug-2005, at 22:43, Dan Golding wrote: I suggest you take another look at these numbers. Those countries with overall population densities lower than the US's all have something in common - they are really cold. Iceland, Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden. Folks in those countries are dens

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Randy Bush
> Not that this necessarily means anything, but I thought your > sentiments above could do with some numbers. prejudices and sentiments are immune to numbers randy

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Sean Figgins
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Jared Mauch wrote: > I once spoke to a construction manager at comcast for their > network buildouts. With my local township, they need to have 20 homes > per linear mile along the route to justify a build. While my street > has 11 homes, and 3 adjacent (where my priv

Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger

2005-08-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Daniel Golding wrote: I suggest you take another look at these numbers. Those countries with overall population densities lower than the US's all have something in common - they are really cold. Iceland, Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden. Folks in those countries are densely