On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 10:54 -0500, Michael J. Lynch wrote:
> If you are using qt-3.3.4-5.x.x, revert to qt-3.3.4.2.0.2 and the
> problem will go away.
Sure seems to be a whole lotta "reverting" going on to get myth to go.
IIRC there is some fonts package(s) you gotta revert to on FC, and now
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:32 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:00 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > Sure seems to be a whole lotta "reverting" going on to get myth to go.
> > IIRC there is some fonts package(s) you gotta revert to on FC, and now
>
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:57 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:42 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > OK. So we could classify it as a non-backward compatible API change.
> > In a message yesterday did you not say that with the fix that is in CVS
> > t
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quick question. How do you revert and rpm backwards? rpm -ivh will not do it
Even though it's OT: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:44 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote:
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> No. Geez, people, if you can't or don't want to read, don't join a mailing
> list.
All due respect Isaac but this is a very high volume list, and what
makes it worse is that the S:N ratio is not really that good. There is,
IMHO, much
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:23 +0200, Stef Coene wrote:
> Or he can compile his own binary's and resell the HMC, there is nothing they
> can do about it.
Yes, he may distribute his own modified (I don't think making a
modification is even a requirement) HMC, however don't omit the
importance of the
Something that I think would be good is an option to stop playing the
thumbnail in the recorded program selector after a selected amount of
idle time has elapsed. This would preserve CPU cycles for transcoding
and commercial flagging when people leave the program selector up but
turn the TV off.
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 08:22 -0700, Joe Votour wrote:
> A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
> designed for the bandwidth and routing that it will
> require.
Bandwidth need not be a problem. Multicast. Doubt they will use such
an elegant solution, but it's there waiting to be used.
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On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 08:40 -0700, Joe Votour wrote:
> (At this point, we're kind of off-topic.)
Yeah. But but so is >50% of the traffic on this list. :-)
> My guess then is that you haven't tried to stream tons
> of multicast data through switches then (either
> high-end or low-end).
Nope.
>
Is anyone here using Myth to capture from a Bell ExpressVu via any kind
of DVB set up?
I'm not terribly interested in buying more receivers and/or having to IR
blast a receiver so I can record the composite or s-video out.
I understand the Nagrivision issues with it but also understand that
peopl
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 11:15 -0500, Andrew Close wrote:
>
> hmm, i'll have to look at my bill. i'm not gonna be happy if i have
> to upgrade packages to get my Stargate, Battlestar Galactica fix. :)
My cableco has been doing this. They have "taken away" two channels on
analog and made them avail
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
>
> Still have that channel here.
Wow. Cableco lied to me. Imagine my surprise.
> Currently I have the cable going direct to the PVR-350 and PVR-250.
Yup.
> I
> assumed this was the basic analog service.
Analog service anyway. Not su
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:38 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
>
> So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select
> the channel on digital cable?
No.
> Or do you mean that would be used from
> the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change
> the channels
Please wrap text. Huge long lines suck.
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:42 -0500, Gavin Haslett wrote:
> I will say that using external boxes ain't so bad,
So you like having to buy a box for every stream you want to watch, be
it recorders or other TVs in the house?
> While I really disagree with the
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56 -0400, Jim Reith wrote:
>
> Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably
> provides at least one with your digital subscription
And what of the additional ones I need for the PVR recording cards (1
each) and the other TVs in the house? They do
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:32 -0400, Phil Bridges wrote:
>
> Does your cable company not rent cable boxes?
Sure. As if cable was not expensive enough though? Why should I *have*
to pay more for what I am getting today? Cableco likes to advertise
that "going digital" you get the same channels at
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 15:18 -0500, Juuso H wrote:
> Hi
>
> Not exactly mythtv specific... but close enough.
>
> When viewing movies or tv or anything really, my display is not
> always updating properly. When there's something big moving,
> there is a noticeable horizontal break where upper half
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 15:56 -0400, Tom E. Craddock Jr. wrote:
>
> Thought #1, dont top post, makes reading the whole thread a painyou
> read top to bottom, not bottom then top, right?
Not only that, it encourages trimming, so that I don't have to read the
same messages over and over again ra
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 16:04 -0400, Andy Pflueger wrote:
>
> #1 Sorry for top-posting.
>
> #2 I did just read right over that step...doh!
I stand corrected. It doesn't seem to promote trimming at all. ~sigh~
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> Any ideas?
Amen brutha. Tried the gnome list too. No answer. :-(
Be sure to post here if you find something out.
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27;s long dead. IMHO, Trolltech should be targeting DirectFB with
their Embedded but again AFAIK, they are not. Pity.
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 09:22 -0600, Marshall Crocker wrote:
> I saw that too when I did my survey last month. I said I would change
> the update time from the morning hours to 9am - Midnight but never
> did. If everyone who does this survey changes then they'll end up
> with everyone switching to
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 13:28 -0600, Mike Daugird wrote:
> how do I change the time mythfilldatabase runs?
Dude. Asked and answered only 4 hours ago in this very thread.
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On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:25 -0500, Ronald Kohsman wrote:
> I concur with John.
>
> Very smooth and good clarity. Hard tell the diff from normal tele.
But that is done by sending the card MPEG2 right? The card decodes the
mpeg2 and presumably sends it to the tele properly interlaced and
vsync'd?
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 10:38 -0800, Alex Harford wrote:
>
> Not very well, as it's using the framebuffer rather than the mpeg2 format.
Ahhh. So if the file is MEPG2, then it uses the MPEG2 decoder, but if
it's anything other it uses it like any old other framebuffer card?
The 350 can encode and
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 10:55 -0800, Alex Harford wrote:
>
> Yes, but AFAIK you can't get at the encode side of the card unless
> it's coming in from the tuner/svideo/composite input. :)
Ahh. Right. Forgot about that detail.
> If the card could take raw data, I could use it to MPEG2 encode my DV
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:52 +0100, Jeroen Brosens wrote:
> Now use your video card's TV-out, enable Xv (which is generally
> hardware accelerated) and set the resolution to 720x576 if you are in
> PAL land or 720x480 for NTSC and use the bob deinterlacer. Now you
> have the same fluid and smooth mo
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:19 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 February 2005 02:05 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > See, that is totally wrong (or rather not as right as right could be)
> > methodology. The real secret to picture perfect tv-out is to display to
> >
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:35 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> Isn't that what VSYNC is supposed to be for?
Exactly. The G400 (probably others) is able to interrupt on the vsync
pulse allowing the driver and software above it to know when the vsync
has happened and thus when to load the next fr
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 15:00 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
> Huh? Do you have any idea what you're talking about,
A little. I have been mucking with PVR software and TV-Out stuff for
about 4 years now. I have been a long time user of Freevo on DirectFB
so I know what properly formatted TV-Out loo
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 15:40 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 February 2005 03:06 pm, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > So, the whole GUI that you get when mythtv starts up is not written on
> > the QT toolkit?
> >
> > What exactly is QT used for in mythtv th
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:59 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
>
> Guess I'll have to remove the vsync code from the Xv/XvMC output at well.
Well, I will confess to not knowing much about X11/Xv and vsync because
I was always told that the X11 protocol provided no means for an
application to be notifi
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 20:08 +, Martin Ebourne wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:44 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
>
> > Also the video hardware has to be able to encode to TV-Out in an
> > interlaced overscanned mode. I have only seen the G400 able to do this
> >
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 07:59 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> TVout "solutions" are a wildcard with any card. Most suck and are
> unknown as far as how they operate internally.
That is true, for most, but not for the g400 -- with DirectFB. I
understand what you are saying about the unknown (
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:28 -0500, Donavan Stanley wrote:
>
> So rather than follow established terminology
Established where? Here? I guess I have not been hanging out here long
enough to know that while the world of set-top-boxes calls the display
that it shows on the TV the OSD, myth folks u
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:28 -0500, Donavan Stanley wrote:
>
> So rather than follow established terminology you invent your own and
> expect everyone else to follow along? Pretty much everyone understand
> that an OSD refers to UI that's overlayed on the video rather than
> generic GUIs, except t
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 09:52 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> Some of them can suck less, and may in fact be quite good. What I
> am saying is that unless you run a genlocked, synchronous 29.97 resolution
> with a 1:1 pixel-mapped input/output characteristic
So, before we get into another sy
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 10:21 -0700, Greg Miller wrote:
> This is the most interesting thread I've followed for a long time. For what
> it's worth I am running Mythtv with DVB in Canada
How are you capturing the DVB signal in Canada? Expressvu is
(apparently) encrypted with a nagrivision variant wh
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:40 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> That's not necessary... I believe you. I do not agree that
> "cannot visually see a difference" equivalent to "perfect," however.
Maybe this is so, but what do I really care beyond it "looks perfect"?
Which I can get with the G400
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 13:37 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
>
> http://qt-directfb.sourceforge.net/story.html (though, the port is a tad old).
Indeed, this is the base of the source that I mentioned earlier that I
had coming to me from a DirectFB developer (the G400 guru in fact). I
just don't want
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 13:41 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
>
> Main video output loop is in NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp (OutputVideoLoop), which
> uses classes in vsync.cpp for that information.
Sweet! Thanks for the pointer!
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>
> Sounds like a driver limitation if you can't adjust the amount of overscan or
> set it to unscaled mode in X
Exactly. No argument here. I think the base of the whole problem is
that the matrox framebuffer driver does not put the card
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 14:13 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> I'm not surprised. That's X protecting you from yourself. That
> modeline runs at 480i frequencies and is meant to be displayed "directly"
> on a TV.
That's what I have. My TV is plugged directly into my video card with a
connec
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 15:00 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
>
> Funky... I haven't heard of that matrox-ism. Is it connected to
> an S-vid or Composite port or something else (DVI, RGB, component)?
It plugs into the 2nd head 15pin standard vga connector on the card and
has svideo and composi
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 20:14 +, Martin Ebourne wrote:
>
> I did get that running 6 months ago. Certainly myth completely through
> XDirectFB is no good because it doesn't support Xv.
But you don't need Xv if DirectFB puts the card into TV-Out mode and
then XDirectFB uses layer 2 (it's this las
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:54 -0500, Thom Paine wrote:
>
> Actually, the TV part is still off the screen.
Of course, you realize that the normal broadcast television picture is
larger than you see on your television, right? This is called
"overscan" and is normal.
Try comparing what you are seei
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 15:19 -0600, Josh Burks wrote:
>
> MythVideo.
>
> Copy your files into the directory specifed in MythVideo setup, use
> the Video Manager to add them to your library.
Indeed. I would like to use the Internal Player for these however my
experience is that it does not play
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 16:42 -0500, Donavan Stanley wrote:
>
> Have you built a seektable for them?
I searched and read. The only reference I could find to building a seek
table for a video is to run commflag on them. Is that what you are
referring to?
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On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 08:00 -0800, Dan wolf wrote:
> Overscan is a bitch. Fucking worst idea _ever_ in the TV area. I
> dont give a shit if the sides of the picture look wierd, show me the
> whole god damn pciture or let me adjust it! Arg!
Geez dude. Don't beat around the bush. Tell us how yo
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:39 -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
>
> Is there we start the drive to put a firefox-like add in the NYT?
>
> I hate the flag, and I hate the greed it's come to represent.
The problem with this issue and all like it (CSS for example just as the
article mentions) is that most pe
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 11:47 -0500, Maverick wrote:
>
> Will MythTV obey the broadcast flag if it where to become law? Being
> an open source project, seems like everyone would just remove that
> section of code using "illegal" patches.
You are missing the point of the problem. Software like Myth
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 12:24 -0500, Maverick wrote:
>
> OK, so the software decoding driver on the pcHDTV would have to be
> patched?
cracked you mean? to strip the flag? i guess that would fall under the
category of the legislation that says that a manufacturer of a device
needs to make it "not
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:44 -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
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> Can't we just use scare tactics?
What would you scare the average consumer with? If you have an idea,
you might have the magic bullet.
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On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 14:35 -0500, Will Dormann wrote:
> After tweaking settings for quite a bit,
> here's how I achieved what I believe to be the optimal output.
Hrm. Optimal meaning "as good as it can get with this card but not
quite ultimate?", or do you believe you have a TV-Out signal that
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 23:20 +0100, Jeroen Brosens wrote:
>
> You probably don't know how bob works too well. Using bobdeint is the
> *only* way to achieve the original field rate of the broadcast, as played
> on a TV. Just outputting frames that are captured by the MPEG2 encoder
> (which are a com
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 10:55 -0700, Shawn Willden wrote:
> I have kids and a brand-new 50" DLP HDTV, which has a bulb that will
> eventually burn out. In case the conflict there isn't obvious, the kids
> have a tendency to leave the TV on, wasting electricity and reducing the
> bulf lifespan.
H
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 12:01 -0700, Shawn Willden wrote:
>
> I responded privately to this in some detail. Publicly I'll just say
> that while this suggestion is good in theory, and certainly something we
> attempt to do, anyone who has raised a few children understands that
> teaching them res
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 14:12 -0500, Mark L. Cukier wrote:
> Isn't this topic better suited to the child-rearing list? :-) I find 300
> on-topic messages per day is enough for me
Yeah, me too. But this list seems to set the Reply-to: to the list
making it a PITA to have to cut and paste e-mail
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 20:21 +, Risto Treksler wrote:
>
> or continue to use whatever you have,
> and just hit "Reply to All"
> and quickly highlight and delete the part about:
>
> "Discussion about mythtv ,"
Indeed. That is my common MO but with this list for some reason that
does not wor
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 12:14 +, Stephen Williams wrote:
> Of course, the way to get 'optimal' TV-out from your Nvidia (or other)
> card is not to use it's TV-out facilities at all and build a VGA ->
> SCART converter for SDTVs (see http://www.sput.nl/hardware/tv-x.html
> for example).
But my TV
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 09:35 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> I've done something similar (although I'm
> using an analog S-vid chip for NTSC).
Don't hold out on us Corey, do tell more. :-) I'm assuming you built
something that converts interlaced vga to s-video using some kind of
s-video encoding
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 10:14 -0500, Will Dormann wrote:
>
> Yes it does. The problem is, no video card appears to be able to do
> TV-Out while retaining that proper interlacing information.
As it was explained to me, the G400 does.
> The instant
> the card does any sort of scaling of the pictu
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 10:15 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> I've mentioned what I did in the past, starting with
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/45910#45910
> Basically built up the circuit in the AD724 datasheet.
Seems strange that there is no commercial "off the shelf"
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 08:27 -0800, Big Wave Dave wrote:
> Looks like something such as...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21169&item=3879054837&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting
>
> ...might be a good solution.
Could be but I like Corey's idea better. The above is
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 11:36 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> That's what I thought. I'm happy with the results, but the
> annoyance of getting everything right is definately beyond the scope of
> what most people are willing to deal with.
Perhaps. Certainly not for the "out of the box" cro
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 08:44 -0800, Joe Votour wrote:
> Have you given thought to the minimum order that you
> require for this, and the cost? Depending on those
> numbers, I'll sign up for one, maybe two (to have one
> as a backup).
Oh, me three. I would love nothing more than to be done with al
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 12:07 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> If by "properly overscanned" you mean not seeing all 720x480, then
> yes, it is.
Sweet. I am totally jealous dude.
> It's actually pretty easy to change the horizontal
> overscanning by just padding the sides with black, but ke
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 17:12 -0500, wheaty wrote:
>
> I'm tempted to dump Rogers completely and move to a completely free
> system (via broadcast NTSC and ATSC channels).
I'm assuming by reference to Rogers you are in Canada somewhere. What
"completely free NTSC/ATSC" material do you have access
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 10:32 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> I would like an automated backup
> to connect to that agent and use the key that's passphrase-protected.
There are (arguably) better ways to do this and security issues with
what you propose.
> Hope that makes sense. It's quite po
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 10:59 -0500, Neil Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:43:47AM -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> >IMHO, the right way to do this is to use the "forced command" option in
> >the authorized_keys file. See the manpage for sshd under the
> &
had to roll back, you would
have to get any files modified in an rpm that were not modified at
checkpoint time from the rpm. So you would need a "rollback" tool too.
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e access to EULAs and so forth that I don't. Where are
you getting all of your "information" from?
Not that I really care about OSX on x86. Just trying to stop the spread
of mis-information.
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I am not interested in digital cable, so that's not even an option.
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accepted container for playing with other players like mplayer and xine
and so forth?
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tainly a non-realtime transcoding from MPEG2 to MPEG4 is going to
yield a better quality/bit ratio than the same size file at realtime
MPEG2.
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is not really MPEG4 compliant MPEG4?
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nd other various things that make it rather ideal for
> dealing with stuff recorded from a tuner card.
Are those in the MPEG4 stream or the NUV container? They probably could
be dropped assuming OGG were better suited to re-containing (i.e. if it
has timestamps, etc.)
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a QT for DirectFB this would be possible, but alas it is
not. Which is a shame. X for an STB is just a waste.
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able to run on DirectFB which AFAIK it does not. :-( QT-Embedded (or
whatever it is) is too far in the other direction. It does not have
hardware acceleration (and other video card) suport that DirectFB has.
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adoption rates. It will be a while still.
Maybe if digital starts getting put into something other than huge TVs
it will happen quicker, but I really have no desire to give up the space
a 52" TV takes.
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thing and went back to the tube, mainly for
brightness/windows/daylight issues.
What res. does yours go to? I figure if I'm buying one I'd buy the full
HDTV res. but then those get pretty pricey.
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at one just the other day and I had a difficult
> time finding one that was *not* digital capable.
What kinds of interfaces?
> As for prices,
> I saw some as low as $650.
Not so bad then.
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t another year and a half), projectors that do 1920x1080
> will be cheap enough to consider replacing it with.
Yeah. That was the other thing. Never realized that bulbs were such a
significant cost of those suckers. To replace too.
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e than just 3-4
instances of:
$ cat < /dev/hdtv_device >file.mpg
in parallel. Even if one stream was 5Mb/s, that is only 640KB/s. Not
really that intensive. Even my single 80G ATA drive gets ~15MB/s
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, then you are encoding on the fly. If with a PVR-x50 or other
hardware encoder, no sweat. In software, you are sweating.
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myth would just read the screen size from the correct (:0.1)
screen and not :0.0 all would work well.
Ideas?
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yth is confused about where to get it's screen
geometry from.
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y is that of :0.0.
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isplay sizes.
Seems silly.
> Right now I am running in clone mode,
> with my desktop only 800x600.
Yeah, I don't want this. I want the mythfrontend screen and the deskotp
screen to remain separate.
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progressive format with a 3:2 pulldown deinterlacer.
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n do it (inverse telecine).
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sktop size size in
Setup), not so much the size of the screen. So my GUI winds up being
640x480 rather than the 570x430 or so that I have configured in Setup.
I make the GUI smaller than the screen so it fits inside the area of the
640x480 left after overscan.
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Why don't you just use Thac's (or the contrib's) mm kernel and put
yourself out of the pain.
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