Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.11.2011 07:02, schrieb Hal?sz S?ndor: > 2011/11/29 23:19 +0100, Reindl Harald > MY only luck is that i recognized this years ago after PLAYING > with innodb and so i started with "innodb_file_per_table=1" from > the begin with the first production database > > And are then

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-30 Thread Hal�sz S�ndor
2011/11/29 23:19 +0100, Reindl Harald MY only luck is that i recognized this years ago after PLAYING with innodb and so i started with "innodb_file_per_table=1" from the begin with the first production database And are then the table-files in the directories with "frm", or in

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.11.2011 03:13, schrieb Karen Abgarian: > The concept is not difficult to explain. Most people do not expect a gas > tank > to shrink once the gas is consumed...right? yes, but the hard-disk is the gas tank and the data are the gas and yes, normally everybody would expect after deleting

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Karen Abgarian
>>> Hi... and some more stuff inline. >> >> Well, I would not base my database design on luck and playing. There >> should be good awareness >> of what the features do and what would be the plan to deal with file >> allocations should the database >> grow, shrink or somerset > > if you

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.11.2011 01:11, schrieb Karen Abgarian: >> MY only luck is that i recognized this years ago after PLAYING >> with innodb and so i started with "innodb_file_per_table=1" from >> the begin with the first production database > > Well, I would not base my database design on luck and playing.

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Karen Abgarian
On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Claudio Nanni wrote: > > This is not to say that MySQL could not have more of the file management > features. For example, the ability to add or remove datafiles on the fly and > the > ability to detach tablespaces as collections of tables. > > That's where MySQ

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Karen Abgarian
Hi... there is stuff inline there. >> The logic behind this is probably that without innodb_file_per_table=1 >> and with several large ibdata files, the space IS freed up when one does >> optimize table or drop table. The space is freed up inside the database >> files and can be reused. > >

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.11.2011 20:25, schrieb Karen Abgarian: > > On 29.11.2011, at 5:21, Reindl Harald wrote: >> why is this dumb "innodb_file_per_table=0" default since MOST PEOPLE >> have only troubles with it because they can not free space with >> "optimize table" with no real benefits? > > The logic behind

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Claudio Nanni
> > > This is not to say that MySQL could not have more of the file management > features. For example, the ability to add or remove datafiles on the fly > and the > ability to detach tablespaces as collections of tables. That's where MySQL(read InnoDB) got stuck actually, it never introduced a

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Karen Abgarian
On 29.11.2011, at 5:21, Reindl Harald wrote: > > ibdata1 does NEVER get smaller, this is normal and a hughe problem > in your case, only if you are using "innodb_file_per_table" which > is NOT default would retire the space after drop tables > > why is this dumb "innodb_file_per_table=0" defaul

Re: help needed restoring crashed mysql

2011-11-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.11.2011 14:08, schrieb Luis Pugoy: > Hello. I have the following problem. > > I was importing a large database to mysql using mysqldump. Unfortunately this > filled up the whole disk, and > mysqldump exited with an error that the table it is currently writing to is > full. Checking df -h