Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Willy Offermans
Hello Russel and mutt friends, If ``touch .muttdebug0'' did not create the .muttdebug0 file then I guess that you are missing the user right to create a file. The touch command is so basic. If this does not work then that needs attention first. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 05:49:04PM -0500, Russell Ur

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.09.14 17:49, Russell Urquhart wrote: > When i went to my ~ directory, and did the touch command, nothing happened. Please do _all_ of the following: (Here, $ is the shell prompt) $ cd# Let's just be sure we are in ~ $ touch .muttdebug0 $ ls -a | more # Did you p

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 05:49:04PM -0500, Russell Urquhart wrote: > I got the +DEBUG when i ran that command. So you get +DEBUG in the `mutt -v|grep BUG' output, not -DEBUG? If you cannot find ~/.muttdebug0 (in your home directory), then maybe installation paths for the build have been sc

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Russell Urquhart
Hi All, After doing the touch command, and not seeing any results, i look this morning and there appears to be SEVERAL .muttdebug files. I wouldn't have thought a touch could have caused that, but there they are. I've attached a text file with what i think is the relevant text for the smtp fai

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 06:46:48AM -0500, Russell Urquhart wrote: > I've attached a text file with what i think is > the relevant text for the smtp failure. 5< 500 5.7.0 Unknown AUTH error -1 (Internal authentication error). As I can see, verison's SMTP server fails with a 50

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread Russell Urquhart
Hi, I set a wrong password and set the smtp authentication to cram-md5. Here is, what i think, is the relevant part of the muttdebug file, attached. Thanks, Russ On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 05:03:35AM -0700, Alexander Gattin wrote: > Hello, > > > 5< 500 5.7.0 Unknown AUTH error -1 (Internal > au

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > roads; red lights, yield signs, school buses and all. Please, what is a "yield sign"? Is that what the rest of the world would call a stop sign, or a give way sign? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Bannister [09-17-14 09:33]: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > > roads; red lights, yield signs, school buses and all. > > Please, what is a "yield sign"? Is that what the rest of the world would > call a stop sign, or a give way sign? yield = allow oth

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread David Champion
I'm not certain from your debug log, but it looks like you may be setting your SMTP username to "russurquhart1". Try using "russurquha...@verizon.net" -- your full email address -- as the username. Larger services (that support multiple virtual or real domains) often require this. * On 17 Sep 20

Re: SMTP Authentication fails with 1.5.23 on Verizon

2014-09-17 Thread russurquhart1
I've never had a problem with my SMTP username before. That and my password have always been the same and always worked. (And still do when i specify SMTP authentications explicitly.) I dunno! Thanks, Russ On 09/17/14, David Champion wrote: I'm not certain from your debug log, but

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > > The message is that not everyone has time to become an expert in how > > e-mail works fundamentally, and not everyone should. In fact, just > > about no one should. This is what specialization is all about, and > > like it or n

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Will Yardley
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > > E-mail has become as popular as car driving. > > But learning how it works fundamentally hasn't. That's why the vast > majority of e-mail users use either Outlo

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Ed Blackman
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: I'm not suggesting Mutt should be just like Outlook or Firefox--it serves a different niche (but it is indeed a niche). However I do think that it's hard to argue convincingly that Mutt users would not universally benefit if it handle

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Derek Martin
Ed, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 02:33:21PM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote: > I'm not one of the developers of Mutt, nor am I some representative > of all of Mutt's users. However, it seems to me that the devs and > at least most of the users like things as they are, such that you > need to know a good bit

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2014/9/17 3:40 PM, Derek Martin wrote: -a lot of very sensible stuff, which I've snipped off- Dear Derek, I'd like to briefly correspond with you. I believe my address is part of this message's message headers. If it strikes your fancy, would you kindly drop me a line? Ciao - Mark Filipak.