sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread zirath
Is there a way to set up mutt to send mail directly from our dynamic dsl address rather than thru the provider's mail server? Thanks.

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread David Maus
On 27. Dec 2008 04:34, zirath wrote: > Is there a way to set up mutt to send mail directly from our dynamic dsl > address rather than thru the provider's mail server? As far as I know: no. Mutt is a MUA (Mail User Agent) what basically means it's responsibility for sending mails ends when it del

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread bill lam
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: > So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the > delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some > mail providers do not accept delivery attempts from dynamic ip > addresses for spam prevention. More specifically, it n

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:34:03AM -0500, zirath wrote: > Is there a way to set up mutt to send mail directly from our dynamic dsl > address rather than thru the provider's mail server? Yes, there is a way. You set up Sendmail or some other MTA to accept mail from mutt. If that is all you do, It

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
bill lam wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: > > So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the > > delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some > > mail providers do not accept delivery attempts from dynamic ip > > addresses for spam prevention

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > bill lam wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: > > > So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the > > > delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some > > > mail providers do not

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
jk...@kinz.org wrote: > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > bill lam wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: > > > > So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the > > > > delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution a

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon wrote: > jk...@kinz.org wrote: >> >>> [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. >> >> True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that >> comes from a system/address with no valid MX record. Yet another >> spam defense technique. As a re

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Anders Rayner-Karlsson
* jk...@kinz.org [20081227 17:40]: > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > bill lam wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: > > > > So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the > > > >

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
Anders Rayner-Karlsson wrote: > To "require" a MX to point back to the sending host before accepting > mail is IMHO disingenious. If it causes legit e-mail to disappear - > it's bad. Thank you, this is *precisely* my point. :-) -- Sahil Tandon

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
Grant Edwards wrote: > > This is also false. > > I used to have mail rejected because the sending domain didn't > have an MX record. After I set up my MX record, those systems > that used to reject mail started to accept mail. This anecdote based on your experience does not mean it is a "requir

Have mutt automatically run a script at startup?

2008-12-27 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 09:14:02PM EST, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Thursday, December 25 at 07:56 PM, quoth Chris Jones: > >`ls > /tmp/ls` > > > >.. in my .muttrc .. and despite an error message to the effect that the > >command doesn't exist .. it actually works. > > The reason it generates the err

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread zirath
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that comes from a system/address with no valid MX record. Yet another spam defen

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > jkinz mentioned the connecting "system"; that is to say, the connecting > client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from which email > is arriving. Negative, "system" -- that is to say "domain" in this case. Consider yo

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
zirath wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon wrote: >> >>> jk...@kinz.org wrote: >>> > [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. > True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that comes from a system/address

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
jk...@kinz.org wrote: > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > jkinz mentioned the connecting "system"; that is to say, the connecting > > client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from which email > > is arriving. > > Negative, "system" -- that is to say "

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:55:26PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > jk...@kinz.org wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > > jkinz mentioned the connecting "system"; that is to say, the connecting > > > client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from w

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > This is also false. >> >> I used to have mail rejected because the sending domain didn't >> have an MX record. After I set up my MX record, those systems >> that used to reject mail started to accept mail. > > This anecdote based o

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon wrote: > jk...@kinz.org wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: >> > jkinz mentioned the connecting "system"; that is to say, the connecting >> > client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from which email >> > is arriving. >

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil
On Dec 27, 2008, at 7:10 PM, jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:55:26PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jkinz mentioned the connecting "system"; that is to say, the connecting client. That client n