Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:10:54PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:05:31PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > > [1] > > If mutt knows not to flag the transferred email as new, then it also > > knows enough not chuck up the erroneous "New mail" message. The logic > > used for

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Chris G
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:05:31PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > [1] > If mutt knows not to flag the transferred email as new, then it also > knows enough not chuck up the erroneous "New mail" message. The logic > used for the message flags is different from that used for confusing > the use

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 02:57:05PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > If one writes a message to an mbox file then the size changes and (if atime is > enabled) the modification time will be after the access time. So mutt > *has* to say there's new mail in the mailbox. Ah, then it is possibly only the immedia

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-25 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:00:13AM -0800, rog...@sdf.org wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 03:05:14PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: > >I can't reproduce this, neither with $check_mbox_size set or > >unser. Unless, of course, I copy a message that is flagged as > >New. > > I've seen this sporadicall

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Will Fiveash
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 04:03:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 03:38:14PM -0500, Will Fiveash wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:02:13AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Chris G [06-24-10 08:10]: > > > > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Will Fiveash
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:02:13AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Chris G [06-24-10 08:10]: > > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using > > mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on > > Linux works fine with maildir but if you switch to mbox

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread rogerx
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 03:05:14PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: >I can't reproduce this, neither with $check_mbox_size set or >unser. Unless, of course, I copy a message that is flagged as >New. I've seen this sporadically when receiving new email, reading it, then restarting mutt later or return

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chip Camden [06-24-10 11:55]: > > I use mutt with mbox format, but I'm still on 1.4 (FreeBSD port). This > thread makes me a bit uneasy about the eventual portupgrade. > I wouldn't be. I have used mbox for many years and I move the the latest available version of mutt, immediately. I have

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 24 22:29, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > > > > > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using > > mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on > > Linux works fine with maildir but if you swit

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 02:48:15PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > > > Getting back to your problem I have just realised something, when you > > > copy a mail message to another mailbox it *is* a new message in that > > > mailbox. I have just tried it and I get exactly the same symptoms that > > > you repo

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 03:05:14PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: > * Chris G on Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 13:45:26 +0100 > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:29:25PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > >>> I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, v

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Christian Ebert
* Chris G on Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 13:45:26 +0100 > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:29:25PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: >>> I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using >>> mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the bo

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris G [06-24-10 08:10]: > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using > mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on > Linux works fine with maildir but if you switch to mbox it all goes > very much awry. I think not. I have used mbox for many yea

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:29:25PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > > > > > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using > > mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on > > Linux works fine wit

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Chris G wrote: > > > I'm getting the feeling that, maybe, very few people are now using > mutt with mbox so that an 'out of the box' installation of mutt on > Linux works fine with maildir but if you switch to mbox it all goes > very much awry. Oh-oh, tha

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:32:38PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:28:24PM +0200, Michael Ludwig wrote: > > Erik Christiansen schrieb am 24.06.2010 um 19:18 (+1000): > > > Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, and therefore Mutt 1.5.20, saving a > > > read mail to another ma

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:28:24PM +0200, Michael Ludwig wrote: > Erik Christiansen schrieb am 24.06.2010 um 19:18 (+1000): > > Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, and therefore Mutt 1.5.20, saving a > > read mail to another mailbox immediately causes that mailbox to be > > flagged as containing new m

Re: Message save causes erroneous "New" mail detection.

2010-06-24 Thread Michael Ludwig
Erik Christiansen schrieb am 24.06.2010 um 19:18 (+1000): > Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, and therefore Mutt 1.5.20, saving a > read mail to another mailbox immediately causes that mailbox to be > flagged as containing new mail. Since I'm using the same .muttrc, > something has changed between m