Re: 1.5.16 build issues on BSD

2007-07-04 Thread Darrin Chandler
in there that you'll see and have an "Aha!" moment for building it yourself. ;-) -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation

Re: 1.5.16 build issues on BSD

2007-07-04 Thread Darrin Chandler
27;t help with particulars, but... One thing you might try is looking at what's going on in the FreeBSD ports, for two reasons. First, you may be able to build out of the ports tree and get what you need. Second, even if you don't want to actually use ports you may find very hel

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
This whole thread has already died. Before it died, some of us (myself included) went too far, and way too off topic. I'm not going to add any more to this, and I ask you to consider leaving it alone as well. Back to discussing mutt! :-) -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 02:22:28PM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:24:57AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > > The greylisting implementation that I use works very well for me. > [...] > > There is no mail that goes missing because of false positives.

Re: OT: spammers [was offending sig + headers]

2007-05-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:12:29PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Friday, May 18 at 10:47 AM, quoth Darrin Chandler: > > Spammers will not adapt to greylisting until they absolutely must. > > Mmmm, not true. I already get spam from all manner of people whom I > did business

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
l not adapt to greylisting until they absolutely must. Greylisting makes them behave like a real mail servers, which cuts down the send rate, which makes it less profitable and more difficult. Even if they all adapt, the economics have still changed. Reducing their margin is a good thin

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
le spam. The only downside is a small initial delay for servers not previously seen. There is no mail that goes missing because of false positives. I don't care if you or others use this. It doesn't suit everyone. > I'm done with this thread, the list has already wasted way too

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
years, I > probably never will, in your eyes. But in truth, you have no idea > what I've learned, and the lessons I value as important may be very > different from the ones you value. Whatever I have or have not > learned, I have acheived long ago what I consider to be "su

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 08:45:54PM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 05:10:35PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > > Wow. I mean, wow. > > > > You're missing another alternative. Just don't post. > > Oh, as to the nature of your comments...

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
of each. I remain > convinced that my method is technically superior to everything else, > even if a few people on mailing lists I'm interested in participating > in find it unpleasant. Wow. I mean, wow. You're missing another alternative. Just don't post. -- Darrin

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
27;m using (OpenBSD's spamd) *temporarily* rejects mail from an unknown server. Real, normal servers will keep it queued and retry shortly. If retries follow behavior specified in RFCs then the server is whitelisted, automatically. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaB

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
ing a reply-to header > > pointing at the list so that mails don't go to the bogus address by > > default for humans. > > You will note that such reply-to already exists, and has for a rather > long time... :) Seems to be there in *this* email, but the one I replied to

Re: OT: offending sig + headers

2007-05-17 Thread Darrin Chandler
ts a bounce, which alerts them to the problem. For your current setup, you might consider adding a reply-to header pointing at the list so that mails don't go to the bogus address by default for humans. Just a small concession to the people on the other end, and it doesn't hurt your protect

Re: How to send PGP-encrypted mail non-interactively?

2007-05-12 Thread Darrin Chandler
hank you, Michelle! -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation

Re: How to send PGP-encrypted mail non-interactively?

2007-05-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:34:33PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 05:53:52PM +0100, Rene Tschirley wrote: > > I'd like to have a script which sends eMail Cron-triggered on a daily > > basis. So far no problem for mutt, but it has to be PGP-encr

Re: How to send PGP-encrypted mail non-interactively?

2007-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
ow how you did it! -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation

Re: Mutt Newbie;Configuring Mutt

2007-02-26 Thread Darrin Chandler
mrc file that comes with it? On my system it's located in /usr/local/share/vin/vim70/vimrc_example.vim. It's a great starting point, and it enables a LOT of good things that are off by default. With this file copied to ~/.vimrc, I have very little customization to do o

Re: Mutt Newbie;Configuring Mutt

2007-02-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
n your .procmailrc: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox # optional -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |

Re: Mutt Newbie;Configuring Mutt

2007-02-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
x, not /home/pobega/mail/mbox (As it should > be asking, to my understanding) Try "set spoolfile=+mbox" in ADDITION to setting folder as above. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |

Re: Mutt Newbie;Configuring Mutt

2007-02-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
x27;ll definitely > be subscribing though. Thanks for your time! The earlier you subscribe the better. ;) I've picked up some very useful knowledge here even when I didn't have a question. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |

Re: Add alias during session

2007-02-06 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 07:27:59PM +0100, Rado S wrote: > =- Darrin Chandler wrote on Tue 6.Feb'07 at 11:08:54 -0700 -= > > > However, one situation comes up fairly often... I want to add an alias > > for someone in the message, but not who mutt thinks is the sender. This

Re: Add alias during session

2007-02-06 Thread Darrin Chandler
sks "Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([yes]/no)?" or some such, and "no" gets me the real person (rather than the list). With "a" to add an alias I get no such choice - it always wants to add the list address. That's pretty much *never* what I want. -- Da

Re: Not seeing new mail at all - BSD system

2007-02-06 Thread Darrin Chandler
ake sure they are updated and that the times are correct. Also, are you doing "set timeout=nnn" in your muttrc? -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |

Re: Add alias during session

2007-02-05 Thread Darrin Chandler
x27;s less work than using an external editor and then sourcing the alias file. I've often wished for a way to alias something besides the (supposed) sender, but I don't do it enough to make it worth doing myself. ;) -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/ |