On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 03:34:27PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2012-08-05 22:10:22 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > Also the notion of urgent e-mail is kind of crazy. As you say, every
> > ISP can have problems. That includes becomming completely unroutable.
> > E-mail is designed to fail --
Hello!
Vincent Lefevre has written on Monday, 6 August, at 15:21:
>Anyway, whether the ISP allows direct SMTP access (in France, there's
>the choice) or not, a MTA (or the package from the OS distribution)
>should be easy to configure for the most common uses; this is the case
>in Debian, wit
On 2012-08-06 12:09:30 +0300, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
> I'm afraid it isn't only in NA but in Europe too as many of providers
> these times prevent unsolicited mail and troyans from windoze users by
> disabling SMTP and NetBOIS outgoing traffic by default but enabling it
> only if user expli
On 2012-08-05 22:06:53 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 03:58:19AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > But when the ISP's mail gateway is down or is blacklisted because of
> > > > spammers, the users wouldn't know what to do.
> > >
> > > Of course they do. Call their ISP and
On 2012-08-05 22:10:22 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 03:58:19AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > This is a silly answer. Every ISP can have problems one time or
> > another! Complaining or getting a new ISP won't solve the problem
> > if one has an urgent mail to send.
>
>
On 2012-08-05 21:55:46 -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 04:12:48AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > By switching the MTA config to direct (e.g. by answering the same
> > questions as above), the user won't need to call his ISP, in
> > particular if this is at night or if the IS
Hello!
Derek Martin has written on Sunday, 5 August, at 22:06:
>On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 03:58:19AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>> An ISP is there to provide full, unfiltered Internet access. If the
>> user has chosen as ISP that blocks some ports, that's his problem.
>You'd better stay in
