Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Karl Heinz Brehme Arredondo
I don't know if has something related to that but there is missing a "using" on webrequest and the error appear to be related to request and not on receive, so that could be like: using (WebRequest request = WebRequest.Create(url)) { if (postData) {

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Spoke to soon. Looping hitting the Internet causes it to fail even after changing the code as suggested. Eventually it dies and you have to restart the emulator. Not sure if this behavior would be the same in production? [ERROR get:](652): Error: NameResolutionFailure [ERROR get:](652): at Sy

[mono-android] Mono for Android for Students?

2011-08-04 Thread Neal Gompa
Hello, I was wondering if Xamarin will still offer Student licenses[1]? The page still says we should email Novell. Since Novell no longer handles it, shouldn't that page be updated? [1]: http://android.xamarin.com/Store/Student -- Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo [ニール・ゴンパ]) Quality Assurance, Platform I

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
I think that was the issue, I changed the code to this, based of that link you sent and your recomendation. It seems to not error. private string getData(string url, Boolean postData, String xmlData) { String responseFromServer=string.Empty; try {

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
I'm thinking the same thing after reading that post. Because I'm seeing were the data stream or read might not close because it crashed to the try catch. I'll rewrite this and see it that's the issue. Thanks -Original Message- From: monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:monodroid-b

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Pryor
On Aug 4, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Tim Kelly wrote: > However, on another note. One of the things I took out of the proof was a > HttpWebRequest and HttpWebResponse which hit the server. So, I'm adding more > logging and have found one thing. > > Repeatedly calling these cause the network to stop f

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Ok, I've done a proof of concept that I thought would show the service stopping after awhile. However, my simple application doesn't stop (go figure). So, now I'm faced with not so much a simple problem but something we do causes that behavior, so I'm still researching it. However, on another

Re: [mono-android] question

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Ok thanks, main is our own class or series of classes or a class that may do other work etc. I'm thinking that make, use, dispose should be the best case making releasing of memory more important over GC. -Original Message- From: monodroid-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:monodroid-boun..

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Thanks Dan, I also found that communications was a 'bitch' in Java whereas .Net we consumed web services which was easy. However, during our testing we came to realize that web services probably is a bad idea because of the overhead and limited resources on Smartphone's. Trying to get Java

Re: [mono-android] question

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Pryor
On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Tim Kelly wrote: > Now these are Service loops that never end while the program is running. > Secnario#1 makes a new instance on each loop but would release resources (I'm > assuming) and cause garbage collection. The first question: Is Class_Master_Main a Java.Lang.

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
What I came up with is to write the logs as we do on a pc and then post them to a webpage. I can have the user click on the user interface, click on the "Logging button" (also the state is saved so reboots stay on), and then when they click "Logging Off button" it transfers it to my server. All

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Wally McClure
iirc, monotouch had similar(documentation, debugging, etc.) issues early in its lifecycle (1.0 didn't have breakpoints). Given some time, I think that this can be resolved. Wally Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:37:35 -0400 From: tim.ke...@designerware.com To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Pryor
On Aug 4, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Tim Kelly wrote: > On another note, nothing to do with MonoDroid, I have a global > error class that writes debugging information to a log file. We then just > use notepad while developing on Windows to view this logging file. However, > the Android emul

[mono-android] question

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
What's best for garbage collection in Android. Secnario#1 While (true) { Class_Master_Main main = new Class_Master_Main(); main.doSomething(); do other stuff ...Sleep() for an hour } Secnario#2 Class_Master_Main main = new Class_Master_Main(); While (true) {

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Dan Russell
Hi Tim,   I've found much of the same thing in my playing around with Mono for Android. I've mostly adopted the Java approach for client applications on the Android platform. Web/Restful Services are implemented in .NET/WCF/C#. Although there are different stacks available, I've adopted Android/

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Wally, I agree that the lack of examples isn't much and I enjoy the challenge. But, I have to list it as a concern so we add additional time into the project plan. So far, we've got enough help from people on this list to overcome issues. About the libr

Re: [mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Wally McClure
A few comments:I agree on the debugger, item #1. I demo'd this at monospace, and they are working on it. Hopefully, they can provide some type of info regarding timeframes. The mono4android libraries that you mention are for development only. by breaking the libraries up in development, it

[mono-android] Java -v- C# mondroid

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
If anyone is interested, we're doing a proof of concept with C# and Java/Eclipse to determine if we can meet business requirements with VS/C#. We prefer to use C# and take advantage of cross platform development. Overall, both products offer the same capabilities and functionality so what I'll

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Sure, I'll have to strip out all the crap I got in there that is business logic. But I think you can recreate it by doing the following: 1. Build the hello world app. 2. Add a service to start when the Activity starts 3. Have the service create a new thread and a handler back to the servi

Re: [mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Jeff Stedfast
Hi Tim, Do you have a sample test case that illustrates this bug that you could attach to http://bugzilla.xamarin.com? If this is a bug in Mono for Android, and it sounds like it very well could be, we'd be very interested in fixing this bug. Jeff On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Tim Kelly wrote

[mono-android] Program stops

2011-08-04 Thread Tim Kelly
Has anyone noticed that after a while a program just stops running in the emulator? Not sure if this behavior happens on a real device. This has me concerned and thinking maybe there's underlying issues. Anyway, I have an application that creates a service. This service creates a thread, sle

Re: [mono-android] Error Finding Devices

2011-08-04 Thread fonager
Its a bug, which arrises from "adb.exe" spitting out some extra information than extected. It should have been fixed in the upcoming release, which I was told would be out very soon. -- View this message in context: http://mono-for-android.1047100.n5.nabble.com/Error-Finding-Devices-tp4615074p46