On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:19:21AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
> I recommend using Google Code hosting at code.google.com instead.
> Setup is trivial, as is adding people to the project.
What's the advantage over sourceforge?
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I re
'
is and change it to 'follow'.
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In this episode, R2 and Luke weld the doors shut on their X-Wing,
and Chewbacca discovers that his Ewok girlfriend is really just a
Womble with its nose chopped off.
llowing random people to trample all over my modules' names seems
like a very good idea. If BYRNE wants to upload one of KBROWN's
modules, then he should talk to KBROWN and become a co-maintainer or get
KBROWN to hand over ownership.
That's what we did when TJMATHER and I agr
, I think it's safe to
assume that anyone using those platforms and perl will know what ..
means and if they don't I'm sure you'll document it.
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Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt
ou're
going to mess around under some pre-existing pragma's namespace like
lib::anything would.
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if their main or only aptitude is for marketing, drowned.
Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/lambda-v0.0.1/lib/lambda.pm
Shouldn't this really be under Acme::*?
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user, rm -rf $HOME in the Makefile.PL is
going to be pretty damned annoying. Ultimately, if you're paranoid
about code you're getting from the interwebs, then you need to take the
time to read and understand it all.
Good luck :-)
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 12:20:09AM +0200, Xavier Noria wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:07 PM, David Cantrell wrote:
> >Locale::ES::Identifiers::... perhaps?
> Good. I think there's the convention to put the country code to the
> right:
> Locale::Identifiers::ES
Yes, goo
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 08:04:36PM -0700, Luis Tello wrote:
> how does one unsubscribe?
By following the instructions in the headers of every message. This is
a common convention for mailing lists.
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 02:49:05PM -0700, Bill Ward wrote:
> On 10/13/07, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 08:04:36PM -0700, Luis Tello wrote:
> > > how does one unsubscribe?
> > By following the instructions in the headers of
ou will have noticed that there is a bootstrapping
problem in using this from within a Makefile.PL - relax, it will come
with a script to bundle itself in an inc/ directory.
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, then I
will. Can't promise to remember to do it next time I build a test
environment though, mind :-)
Incidentally, the h2ph invocation should probably be clarified as
$PREFIX/h2ph in the docs.
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eem
very useful. Put it in the docs instead.
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-- Cartoon Law X
T. Sound sane?
Not that you should expect this soon. VMS portability is more important
right now, and is currently blocked on "VMS is scary, weird and foreign".
Another possibility is that I should think more about
Devel::CheckOS::OSFeatures::*.
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:38:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 05:26:19PM +0000, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Changing the topic somewhat, a really good module for pretending that
> > various modules don't exist is Devel::Hide. The -from:children switc
in t/10-Field-CIDR_List.t, you declare
that you're going to run 6 tests, and then you either run 6 tests or you
skip *7* tests.
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Aluminum makes a nice hat.
All paranoids will tell you that.
But what most do not know
Is reflections will show
On the CIA's evil landsat.
;t exist is Devel::Hide. The -from:children switch
will even hide modules from child processes.
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Hail Caesar! Those about to vi ^[ you!
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 05:51:27PM +0100, Jenda Krynicky wrote:
> "Premature optimization is the root of all evil."
> OTOH, being able to inline functions could be nice, yes.
If I ever need to do that, I'll run my code through the C pre-processor
before releasing it.
--
-friendly.
And it shouldn't have any effect on any change control system worthy of
the name.
> his concern is
> other people affecting *his* choices.
He only gets to dictate how I write my code if he's paying me.
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ok the time to read the documentation and try the code out,
instead of just judging it by the version number.
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a code gets pulled in when you make
your users install a dependency. Re-using code is a Good Thing of
course, but taken to extremes it can be a real pain in the arse for
those for whom perl is just another environment that they have to
support on their machines.
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the bundle.
> The idea is good. I just have one simple bundle but I'd add that test to it.
> About testing that all the modules are available on CPAN:
>
> How do you test locally?
I'd make tests skip if they can't find a CPAN mirror.
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Arbeit macht Alkoholiker
peaker thinks the week begins. If you mean the most recent
Sunday in the past, then you say "last Sunday".
The tricky one is "next Sunday". Towards the end of the week, say on a
Friday or Saturday, "this Sunday" is in a day or two's time and "next
Sund
ly wrong almost everywhere is only better
than being inconsistently wrong. And if you think that "this Wednesday"
means "this week's Wednesday" then you will be sometimes wrong and
sometimes right.
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Immigration: making Britain great since AD43
al user" is bad practice IMO. It relies on negative
feedback from your users, instead of pro-actively fixing things. These
days even Microsoft pays attention to at least some bug reports which
come from people who have no intention of actually *using* their
products.
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ch broke my tests for
some PostScripty stuff.
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"101 Solitaire Variations" book: $6.59.
Cheap replacement for the one thing Windows is good at: priceless
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similar is used for Go ratings, at least in Europe.
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On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 09:34:32AM +0100, Christian Bartolomaeus wrote:
> * On 2008-02-04 David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Daniel T. Staal wrote:
> > >My first thought, after looking through your Wikipedia link, is to ask if
> > >there is anything specifcall
it is quite wrong (this is the bug) to say that there is a list of
valid options decreed by Ken Williams. How I licence my code is no
business of his (and I'm sure he wouldn't claim that it is) and if I want
to create Dave's Fabulous Software Licence then I am free to do so.
So there
ns
No.
There's nothing badly-formed about something that doesn't have a
META.yml. Plenty of stuff on the CPAN pre-dates it, and as recent
discussion on this 'ere list have shown, it is poorly specified and
documented.
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What is the di
t's not very interesting or
> useful for an author to list everything he uses. Tk and Catalyst are good
> examples.
Catalyst is an excellent example. I'm sure it has gone through at least
one fairly major re-organisation of its distributions at some point.
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tutils::MakeMaker to be installed
Actually, it's this different:
$ corelist ExtUtils::MakeMaker
ExtUtils::MakeMaker was first released with perl 5
$ corelist Module::Build
Module::Build was first released with perl 5.009004
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o tests. The results that I just looked at (picking some
at random) were pretty clear about that. If you can point us at the
specific test result that you're got an issue with then I'm sure someone
can either explain it or point you at the tester in question.
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added to "Notes for CPAN authors" at the bottom of the page:
http://cpantest.grango.org/wiki/CPANAuthorNotes
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[OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a
sometime coder, and an easily amused prim
ualisation even that isn't an insurmountable problem.
Perhaps someone who has more time available than I do (and who knows
more about packaging) should apply for a perl foundation grant to get
this going :-)
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will do wonders
for your blood pressure.
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Repent through spending
g called
# from here
use Module::That::Exports::Stuff; # except that now it doesn't, bwahahahaha!
Import::import(
from => 'Module::That::Exports::Stuff',
subs => [qw(set get bet wet)]
);
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Just because it is possible to do this sort of thing
in the English language doesn't mean it should be done
riting tests.
Can't you use Devel::Peek to get the refcount?
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Blessed are the pessimists, for they test their backups
le alternatives.
IIRC Amazon have a donation thing. If you have an Amazon wishlist,
point people at that too. About half the donations I get for CPANdeps
are in the form of books and DVDs.
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If you have received this email in error, please add som
because
of ExtUtils::MakeMaker bugs, so if EU::MM is "too broken" then M::B has
to also be too broken because it is *more* broken. Which is a shame,
cos M::B is a good idea.
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fdisk format reinstall, doo-dah, doo-dah;
fdisk format reinstall, it's the Windows way
to another, and older versions of make may support fewer
features than whatever version you (and Schwern) are developing against.
GNU have even managed to break *cp* and *rm* from one release to the
next, so I treat GNU make with suspicion - it's far more complex, so far
more likely to get
Elliot Shank wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
As a counter-counter-point, if you're going to refuse to use EU::MM
because it's too broken, you have to refuse to use Module::Build for
the same reason.
Ah. Ok, I'll use nothing.
Well done! Ten out of ten for deliberately m
ode and configure Apache. I'll do it
eventually, but my to-do list is rather long. If anyone else wants to
pick it up and implement it, I'd be delighted.
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I remember when computers were frustrating because th
ccess) without writing
a Makefile. I expect that s/Makefile/Build/ works too.
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Nuke a disabled unborn gay baby whale for JESUS!
rn have? How much do I trust the author? And no particular
> set of answers to these questions is the ???right??? one.
Part of this is why I wrote CPANdeps (http://deps.cpantesters.org/).
I'm just about to add links to RT queues, which should be useful too.
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b/Foo/Bar.pm: GPL2.txt or Artistic.txt
lib/Apache/Foo/Bar.pm: Apache.txt
*: public-domain
and then say that *either* 'licence' *or* 'licences' must be present, as
must the files they reference. The exact spelling of the word "or" in
the second example I leav
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:13:24PM -0500, Ken Williams wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:17 AM, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, in summary, here's my objections to the
> > current 'license' field in META.yml:
> > * poorly documented;
&
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:36:08AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Thursday 30 October 2008, David Cantrell wrote:
> > That's the bit where I suggest instead of saying, eg, "frobnitz" to mean
> > "the Frobnitz licence" you say "frobnitz" to mean &qu
ols that people
*can* use if they want, but not trying to hold their hands too much if
they really want to follow one of the other ways of doing things?
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Wow, my first sigquoting! I feel so special now!
-- Dan Sugalski
WriteMakefile(...);
because even if it's installed, you can't 'use' it unless you've got
thread support.
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Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by
poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to
catch TB than a normal person
> errors.) If that doesn't work, then I'd suggest contacting Andreas
> and asking for help diagnosing the indexing problem.
Could it be the weird version number?
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Anyone willing to give up a little fun for tolerance deserves neither
okers.
Hopefully I'll have the time to do all this myself in the few days
before Christmas, but I'm sure it would be a good idea for at least one
other person to do it.
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What a lovely day! Now watch me spoil it for you.
ad from disk those bits
that are needed.
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Suffer the little children to come unto me, as
their buying habits are most easily influenced.
-- Marketroid Jesus
yone have any better ideas?
Of those, Recognizer is better IMO, because you're actually aiming to
*understand* the barcode and turn it into a number, just like OCR turns
an image into a bunch of characters, and not merely find the part of the
image that contains the barcode.
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tecting this:
my $hashref = Tie::Hash::Vivify->new(sub {
confess("No auto-vivifying (did you mis-spell something?)\n".Dumper(\...@_))
});
I found that excellent module after spending *hours* tracking down a typo
deep in the guts of CPU::Emulator::Z80.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 08:25:39PM -0600, Roger Hall wrote:
> 1. I should have perl set to a minimum version, shouldn't I? What's the best
> way to do that? (Makefile?)
Yes, see http://wiki.cpantesters.org/wiki/CPANAuthorNotes
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akes it clear that it shouldn't be treated that way.
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engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in
to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:17:22AM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
> David Cantrell writes:
> > Tie::Hash::Vivify is useful for detecting this:
> > my $hashref = Tie::Hash::Vivify->new(sub {
> > confess("No auto-vivifying (did you mis-spell
> > something?)\
designed with the aim of being correct and maintainable
at the expense of being pitifully slow anyway.
[ insert muttering about #ifdef-ing it in or out depending on whether
it's running on my machine or not - why on earth was that useful
feature removed? ]
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rray lookup.
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When one has bathed in Christ there is no need to bathe a second time
-- St. Jerome, on why washing is a vile pagan practice
in a letter to Heliodorus, 373 or 374 AD
odule::Build's license field
You mean "not Module::Build-approved". Module::Build is obviously buggy
in this area.
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"Cynical" is a word used by the naive to describe the experienced.
George Hills, in uknot
, Solaris,
Irix and AIX are all Unix.
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It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate
what it is they want, nor can they evaluate it when they see it
-- Alan Cooper
ful?
Devel::CheckOS can handle that too :-) although the module it ships with
for Linux 2.6 is more by way of an example of how to do it than anything
else. Contributions to identify particular distributions would be most
welcome!
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If you have rece
ssertOS::OSFeatures::POSIXShellRedirection for something very
similar that you could base it on. You would then say something like:
use Devel::AssertOS qw(OSFeatures::SupportsSymLinks);
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"Cynical" is a word used by the naive to describe the experienced.
George Hills, in uknot
lib
Foo
Bar
BarTestModule.pm
...
...
and even if it's not kosher, are there any dists that do that that you
know of?
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There are many different types of sausages. The best are
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:20:20PM -0400, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote:
> and the summary "there is controversy, but it's definitely better
> than EUMM" is certainly true.
Only for certain values of "true". Whether it's actually better for
*users* is a rath
" about whether it works
> or how it works.
Despite your saying that we can't, we do. There is disagreement about
whether it's a good idea to use Module::Build, and merely denying that
the disagreement exists is ... well, it's silly.
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Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> # from David Cantrell
> # on Wednesday 08 April 2009 12:06:
>
>>> As I've said before, this is silly. It's a tool, so either it works
>>> or it doesn't. We can't really have "controversy" about whether it
>>&g
|
| WWW::Curl::Easy |
| XML::Easy |
| XML::LibXSLT::Easy |
+-+
41 rows in set (9.89 sec)
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Irregular English:
ladies glow; gentlemen perspire; brutes, oafs and athletes sweat
e going to think you're mad.
And we should care about people outside the community, because they
vastly outnumber those of us *in* the community. They and their
opinions are important because they do things like influence which
technologies their employers use, and consequently how many job
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:21:48AM -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> # from David Cantrell on Thursday 09 April 2009 05:10:
> >And we should care about people outside the community, because they
> >vastly outnumber those of us *in* the community. They and their
> >opinions are i
hen
reasonably suppose that the authors really do know what they're talking
about, and that it was subjected to debate and peer review before
acceptance and promulgation.
And of course perldoc perladmin is rather less susceptible to casual
vandalism, spam, and misguided edits than a wiki is.
Friday (which has
exciting API changes which your real-world (and therefore incomplete)
test suite doesn't catch).
But that's the ideal, and so all too often doesn't happen.
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fdisk format reinstall, it's the Windows way
[CCing Michael Schwern cos I'm not sure if he's on this list]
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:39:04AM -0400, Darian Anthony Patrick wrote:
> David Cantrell wrote:
> > [re http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?perl_best_admin_practices]
> > ... once you have found it, h
o you think I should change it to use eq in the test?
It may work, or it may not. If it "works" - in the sense of making the
test failure go away - then I would expect it to bite someone later when
they just happen to hit upon a number where the floating point rounding
error goes the ot
of a showstopper for lots of people.
Added TSCH to the CC list.
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If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the
entrails of the bastard denying me access to anything else.
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 03:05:49PM -0400, David Golden wrote:
> Yikes. You must have missed Test::Number::Delta ...
Harr! That'll teach me to read the whole thread before replying!
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Irregular English:
you have a
have OO, it has
> blessed scalars. Just sayin' ;).
If perl 5 doesn't have OO (something that I disagree with), then Moose
doesn't have OO, so any advice to use Moose to get OO is obviously
wrong. No amount of syntactic sugar can change the fact that perl just
has blessed sc
rl plus moose will take longer than just
learning perl. If you already know perl, then learning moose plus the
employer's own code will take longer than learning just the employer's
codebase.
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There once was a tramp with &
either of those doable automatically?
That could be a reasonable thing to do, but even then you still have
problems with how to represent dual-licenced code.
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All praise the Sun God
For He is a Fun God
Ra Ra Ra!
a suitable name?
Just in the last couple of days someone uploaded ELF-Extract-Sections to
the CPAN, maybe that will do what you want. Or if not, it might at
least provide a good starting point.
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There are many different types of
permissions, other than in a README. I'm
> using DBIx::Class, so I can deploy the schema in code, but the db
> setup less so.
Look at Test::Database.
> ps. It did occur that this module is perhaps too simple as to not
> warrant being on cpan.
Certainly not! There's lots of v
n
tarball gets named automagically when you create it with 'make dist'.
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:49:41PM -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:
> ... CPAN Search Diff tool ...
>
> I would ideally like to implement such a tool on the entire BACKPAN,
Why not just take a backpan mirror, untar stuff, and use diff -r?
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 07:48:24AM -0700, Jonathan Swartz wrote:
> Is there still a point to registering module namespaces on PAUSE?
No.
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If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the
entrails of the bast
p. Simply compare version numbers of
what you've got against what's in the CPAN index files. There's no
privacy concerns as the files are already available on the user's
machine. Have it warn loudly if you've got old versions of tools.
I'd be happy to add this to my T
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 03:47:08PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
> On Wed, August 26, 2009 3:23 pm, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Perhaps CPAN.pm (and CPANPLUS) could add a way of checking for updated
> > toolchain-ish modules on startup. Simply compare version numbers of
> > wh
bundled with modules
that use it, and it should be up to those modules to Do The Right Thing.
I'm disinclined to include things like Archive::Tar and
ExtUtils::CBuilder, but could be persuaded.
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Us Germans take our humour very s
is
> Nandor re the best definition of homedir on Mac OS. The result is that,
> for the time being, at least, the official location for CPAN
> configuration data on Mac OS is indeed ~/Library/Application\
> Support/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm.
Does that not assume that you're usi
ny prompts about downloading and building libraries. But
I'll add building it to my rather long to-do list ;-)
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The Law of Daves: in any gathering of technical people, the
number of Daves will be greater than the number of women.
which will check for both a compiler, the
necessary libraries/headers, and a working linker.
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[OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a
sometime coder, and an easily amused primate with a penchant
for those
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:01:56PM +0200, O. STeffen BEYer wrote:
> Also, many of your suggestions need Perl modules to be installed on the
> target machine which do not exist on legacy Perl installations ...
Devel::CheckLib is designed to be bundled with your distribution.
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=> {
> ...
It's documented in the current version. IIRC it was originally just an
experimental feature so not documented until recently.
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All children should be aptitude-tested at an early
ave
software that can talk the necessary protocol if he wishes to access
that resource.
If I care enough about a distribution to want to look at the git or cvs
repo, then I care enough to not just look at search.cpan.
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you have any
>> advice (or links) on how to test for gcc in Makefile.PL?
>
> How about:
>
> use Config;
> if ( $Config{cc} =~ /gcc/ ) { ... }
Not sure that'll always work - what if cc is a link to gcc?
But $Config{gccversion} is always true if gcc was used.
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> David Golden wrote:
>> use Config;
>> if ( $Config{cc} =~ /gcc/ ) { ... }
> Not sure that'll always work - what if cc is a link to gcc?
Here we go ...
$ ls -l `which cc gcc`
... /usr/bin/cc -> /etc/alternatives/cc
... /usr/bin/gcc
y reasonable
interface to it.
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You may now start misinterpreting what I just
wrote, and attacking that misinterpretation.
h an attack is lunched against your own country,
> your mother land!
Yes. "
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engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in
to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists
enough to do any real work. I've been working as one of
several programmers for the last six months on a large product that uses
Catalyst.
I still have to ask people for help whenever I hit Catalyst. And I keep
finding things in Catalyst that look just plain stupid and wrong.
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ve the right version
of the software, or you might want to keep your application and all its
dependencies somewhere other than /usr, or you might have to use your
own build of perl because as well as Catalyst you need to use some other
module that's particularly fussy, or ...
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