Re: Cannot Contact Perl List Manager listmast at lists.perl.org

2007-03-26 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 25, 2007, at 9:36 PM, imacat wrote: We don't maintain that site, Elaine does and I believe she's busy at the moment. Sorry, we don't have any access to change it. - ask Hi. This is imacat from Taiwan. Is there any news on this

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-26 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:12, Tim Bunce wrote: > Currently on PAUSE you have to explicitly delete old uploads. > > How about changing it so you have to explicitly KEEP old uploads > that appear to have been superseded? I like it. I agree with Jarkko that there should be a way to "pin" some version

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-26 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:38, Andy Armstrong wrote: >> I like that solution better > > > [snip] > > But solution to what? Are we convinced there's actually a problem here? CPAN has almost 200k files. www.cpan.org says there are "17627 modules". rsyncing a gazillion files doesn't work that well

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-27 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 26, 2010, at 16:02, Arthur Corliss wrote: > Why use rsync, then? Why not have checkpointed logs on cpan with > additions/removals logged by date so you can roll forward on the client, > processing only those files? It would be trivial to set up and a lot more > efficient. I find it cur

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-28 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
You are misunderstanding the problem of changing the mirroring mechanism. Making new software is nice and good -- Andreas already has something that's better for the PAUSE data. Getting 1000s of mirrors to use your software (rather than rsync which they use for ALL OTHER mirrors -- not so easy.

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-31 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 31, 2010, at 6:52, David Nicol wrote: > new proposal: Make modules "pay rent" in order to remain on a mirror. > Rent could be in the form of actual user interest, or good reviews. How you are proposing purging useless stuff from CPAN -- that's a lot more radical than Tim's proposal of j

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-31 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
Just to summarize (and this is going to be the last mail I send in this thread): Old releases (more than a few releases back) are virtually useless. Just how useless is up for debate, but BACKPAN is there. We've always encouraged CPAN authors to purge old releases as appropriate. Tim noticed (

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-04-02 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 1, 2010, at 19:49, Arthur Corliss wrote: I can't believe I'm doing this, but ... >> The main point here is that we can't use 20 inodes per distribution. It's >> Just Nuts. Sure, it's only something like 400k files/inodes now - but at >> the rate it's going it'll be a lot more soon en

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-04-02 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 1, 2010, at 19:49, Arthur Corliss wrote: > I've made a viable suggestion, and offered some time to work on it. But > you've made it abundantly clear that it's not welcome. Talk = ZzZz. Code = Interesting. Deployment = Useful. - ask

Re: Distributing the CPAN

2010-04-02 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 1, 2010, at 16:50, Tim Bunce wrote: > * The need for widespread mirroring is less significant than it was in > years past. (Also using git as the inter-mirror transport of source files > means there'll be much less traffic between mirrors. Effectively only > the diffs between releases.) T

Re: Distributing the CPAN

2010-04-03 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 2, 2010, at 14:03, Tim Bunce wrote: > Imagine a cpan-all 'superproject' repro that has all the distros as > submodules. This repro would be tiny when cloned because it only > contains empty directories for the distos plus the metadata for where > the upstream distro repro lives and what t

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-04-03 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:50, Arthur Corliss wrote: > And my assertion has been that the excessive stats by the server are a bigger > impediment to synchronization than the inode count. Well, then one of us don't understand how file systems etc work. :-) - ask

Re: Reducing rsync cost

2010-11-27 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On 11/24/10 1:23, Nicholas Clark wrote: The symlink tree is built by scripts, isn't it? Are they available? Actually; since earlier this year it's not being built anymore. I promised to write a note announcing it but haven't gotten around to it. So inadvertently we got to test if anyone car

Re: Reducing rsync cost

2010-12-01 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On 11/24/10 1:23, Nicholas Clark wrote: The symlink tree is built by scripts, isn't it? Are they available? Actually; since earlier this year it's not being built anymore. I promised to write a note announcing it but haven't gotten around to it. So inadvertently we got to test if anyone car

Re: CPAN Testers and PREREQ_PM doesn't work very well!!!!!!

2004-12-22 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Dec 21, 2004, at 15:12, Graciliano M. P. wrote: Please don't cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this -- it's so not relevant for the people on that address. Is not the 1st time that I receive a FAIL report from CPAN telling that is not possible to find module X at @INC, saying to add the PREREQ_PM at M

Re: No recent CPAN update?

2005-10-23 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Oct 23, 2005, at 10:22, David Golden wrote: I noticed that search.cpan.org hasn't updated since Friday, and when I looked at the RECENT file at cpan.org (http://cpan.org/ RECENT.html), that, too, seems to have been last updated on Friday. I also know that PAUSE has more recent stuff (on