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So it /is/ just you :)
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this page:
https://pause.perl.org/pause/query?ACTION=pause_04about
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anism like that would be
a huge help to me.
If something like that existed it'd be useful also to be able to get
a list of all the abandoned modules.
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that a lot of time can pass between someone maintaining a
module for the last time and eventually deciding that they aren't
supporting it - human nature being what it is.
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ut of the
box setups and I'd like to provide more benefit if possible.
What specifically is imacat doing that makes her an example of best
practice and how may others do something similar?
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p to smoke.
Cheers :)
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On 24 Aug 2006, at 16:05, imacat wrote:
Hope this helps. Please tell me if you need any more information.
That's great, thanks - I'll give it a try.
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rb book
that should be mandatory reading if this is an area you're interested
in.
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so was the textbook in Lisp class.
I'm surprised it covered Perl.
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;m surprised it covered Perl.
Why is everyone being so difficult the last month?
Sorry - flippancy as humour. It should probably be deprecated or
something.
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anaged stack or a queue
- or by turning the tail call into a goto or whatever is just well
established practice, no?
I don't have anything against discussion (obviously...) but do we
need to discuss something that's already so well understood?
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ne an e-mail. If this is the
case, I'm
going to report it to spamcop. If that's not the case, I'm going to
nicely suggest that they post to jobs.perl.org instead.
Yup, I got it too. They way it's phrased suggested to me that it had
been sent to multiple recipients.
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erested in doing the job, please quote us a lump-sum
for this package.
That's one of the things I berated them for in my reply. I bet
they've had some lovely email today from the Perl community :)
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now
what I should do? I could ask Rich to make a release of Geo::Cache
that had Geo::Gpx as a dependency rather than bundling it - does
anyone know if that'd fix it?
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On 25 Nov 2006, at 23:19, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
On Saturday 25 November 2006 16:00, Andy Armstrong wrote:
Anyway, the PAUSE indexer has failed because:
status: Not indexed because Geo-Cache-0.06/lib/Geo/Gpx.pm in
R/RB/RBOW/Geo-Cache-0.06.tar.gz has a higher version
rg/src/RBOW/Geo-Cache-0.06/lib/Geo/
Gpx.pm | grep \$VERSION
0.10
Indeed - and I've uploaded version 0.11.0 of Geo::Gpx which should be
higher than both. I've just tried again with 0.12 to see what happens.
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f any way to do that.
I think that Geo::Cache is pretty much unmaintained so maybe the
solution is to ask Rich Bowen to let me take that over too - unless
anyone can think of anything else.
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On 26 Nov 2006, at 11:04, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I think that Geo::Cache is pretty much unmaintained so maybe the
solution is to ask Rich Bowen to let me take that over too - unless
anyone can think of anything else.
Solved I think - PAUSE didn't like my use of a qv// version li
On 15 Dec 2006, at 21:39, David Landgren wrote:
I vote for Transform. Possibly more Data than List but I wouldn't
argue it for long.
List:: has the connotation doing things to Perl arrays I think.
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e
reason.
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t be politically sensitive to add a Google powered
search to search.cpan.org - but I'd certainly have found it useful in
the past.
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(and useful!) module will not be fixed.
I'm happy to take it on and fix any outstanding bugs. I was looking
at it just the other day coincidentally.
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erl mailing lists to try to recruit someone
who can test it in a realistic mp2 environment.
When you say 'the outstanding bugs' were you referring to the mp2
issue? I'm planning to work through all the bugs but I guessed that
that one was probably the most pressing.
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ght be a little harsh for
someone who obviously invested considerable time, care and skill into
producing a module that many have since found useful :)
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re:
http://cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/A/AN/ANDYA/CGI-Simple-0.078.tar.gz
Cheers.
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On 10 Jan 2007, at 17:32, David Landgren wrote:
Andy Armstrong did write:
Once Ask or whoever gives me permissions the new release will
appear in the index. For now it can be found here:
http://cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/A/AN/ANDYA/CGI-
Simple-0.078.tar.gz
Ping brian d foy, but I
ng modules that are unloved and unused.
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On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:56, Adriano Ferreira wrote:
For the record, James Keenan is an active developer
(http://search.cpan.org/~jkeenan/). The modules in question were found
in James Freeman's directory (http://search.cpan.org/~jfreeman/).
Did anyone mention James Keenan?
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On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:58, Fergal Daly wrote:
Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA),
Ah - I didn't even read the subject :)
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On 12 Jan 2007, at 14:07, Andy Lester wrote:
On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people
can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be
a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and u
lagging them as abandoned
so that when/if a new maintainer came along the takeover processes
could be fast tracked.
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27;s largely irrelevant -- because however good your idea is,
there's
bound to be somebody in the Perl community questioning it or objecting
to it! So don't wait for approval: just do it, whatever "it" is, then
show folks.
Good luck!
Thanks :)
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but if we could add some
metadata about whether a module was actively supported that alone
might be useful for people.
And actually I'm not really proposing anything concrete - just trying
to work out how we collectively feel on this topic.
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On 8 Feb 2007, at 15:06, imacat wrote:
Correction: Time::Cubic.
I got some Time Cube madness on an old blog a few years ago:
http://www.shitshifter.com/forum.jsp?nid=237
See posts by "HEED CUBIC PROPHECIES TO AVERT CUBELESS DOOM"
::, it won't show
up.
Of course the person who uploaded it may subscribe to this list or
have found the public archives.
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x27;re hatching a cunning plan it's probably better to
do it in private :)
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On 19 Feb 2007, at 23:20, David Kaufman wrote:
[snip]
Enjoy!
Superb! :)
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On 25 Feb 2007, at 05:02, Greg Matheson wrote:
How do you find out what can be done in older perls?
Is it not possible to build 5.6.2?
Archaeology: this seems to be the birth of use constant:
http://backpan.hexten.net/authors/id/P/PH/PHOENIX/constant-0.01.readme
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Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status
of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now.
I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to be
getting his mail just now either.
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On 6 Mar 2007, at 15:01, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-)
I had noticed a certain ... mobility :)
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g but I don't think either way is actually wrong or
worse. It probably depends on how the task of writing documentation
relates to coding for each individual.
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On 8 Mar 2007, at 19:59, Jonas B. Nielsen wrote:
I am using Komodo for this kind of work.
You're using a Mac, right? Have you looked at TextMate?
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worth doing.
I like it. You could extend the syntax to provide for printf()
formatting:
'/photos/album${ALBUM:\d+}/photo${PHOTO:\d+}.jpg'
could optionally be
'/photos/album${ALBUM:\d+:%04d}/photo${PHOTO:\d+:%04d}.jpg'
to get back strings like
'/photos/album
e fixed width fields
* truncate reals to ints
* specify the number of decimal places
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could parse backwards for the format on the assumption it
won't contain a colon?
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ying
Perl::Version to use it.
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milar?
Text::Transform::Reversible ?
I reckon 'munge' is the verb at the root of the transforming things
taxonomy. It looks something like this:
munge
parse
transform
format
Unfortunately Text::Munge::Reversible sounds a bit folksy :)
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On 24 Apr 2007, at 18:07, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
So I think somewhere under either Text:: or String:: might be
better.
String::Template?
String::Template::Reversible maybe? String::Template sounds like a
namespace rather than a module.
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7;d add "Instead use non-capturing brackets (?: ) to group subparts
of the regexp." just to avoid anyone cargo-culting the notion that
you can't use brackets at all.
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That's me in the corner.
That's me in the spotlight.
Losing my abstraction layer.
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Haven't debugged enough.
Is that why I heard you laughing?
I thought that I heard you ping.
I think I thought I saw you reply.
Yes, that's much better :)
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On 5 May 2007, at 09:29, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Also, I can't seem to find the search.cpan source. Could someone
provide a
pointer to it?
I've been wondering if that was available too.
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On 18 May 2007, at 16:21, K. J. Cheetham wrote:
I've already written the bulk of the module and a series of tests and
POD for it, which I can show if need be.
How does it intersect with
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Set-IntSpan/
and
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Set-IntSpan-Fast/
?
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to turn the output of as_string() back into an object, which is
something I needed for dealing with user inputted data, and
potentially a function to validate such a string too. Would you be
interested in me writing a patch for something like that?
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It's interesting how difficult it is to find CGI.pm using
search.cpan.org. For example
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=CGI&mode=all
doesn't seem to mention CGI.pm at all.
Has it always been like that or has something changed recently?
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On 22 May 2007, at 20:08, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-22 20:30]:
It's interesting how difficult it is to find CGI.pm using
search.cpan.org.
Difficult?
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=CGI&mode=module
Difficult for people who aren
/authors/id/P/PE/PETDANCE/
Present: http://backpan.hexten.net/authors/id/P/PE/PETDANCE/
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On 25 May 2007, at 18:09, Andy Armstrong wrote:
Have they released source? The site says it's a hosted web service.
Ah. This: http://recaptcha.net/plugins/php/ ?
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On 25 May 2007, at 18:04, David Nicol wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-1029-6186430.html
Have they released source? The site says it's a hosted web service.
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On 25 May 2007, at 18:04, David Nicol wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-1029-6186430.html
Captcha::reCAPTCHA coming up as soon as I write some docs.
Here it is in action:
http://hexten.net/cgi-bin/captch.pl
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On 25 May 2007, at 19:53, Andy Armstrong wrote:
Here it is in action:
http://hexten.net/cgi-bin/captch.pl
Now on CPAN:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Captcha-reCAPTCHA/
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That explains why I can see
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Captcha-reCAPTCHA
but folks in the US can't.
So yes I can confirm that the digitalcraftsmen mirror is fine.
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may be an artifact of that.
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t can't be done that way. The DB schema
is free to change in backwards incomptible ways.
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ainer?
Thanks.
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On 31 Jul 2007, at 13:10, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I wonder if you're still interested in maintaining
Devel::TraceLoad. I notice that the last release was over six years
ago and that it currently has test failures. If you are no longer
interested in maintaining it would you be prepar
ative [to => 'My::Big::Namespace'] => qw( This That
Munger::Fast Munger::Precise );
?
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semantics of use that has (I
presume) nothing to do with any inheritance relationship the modules
may have with each other.
I quite like 'relative' to be honest. And I like the idea of the
module. I'll use it immediately when you release it, thanks.
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On 6 Oct 2007, at 15:53, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote:
Heh, thanks. I'll announce here when the module is available.
Cool :)
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On 7 Oct 2007, at 15:33, Peter Pentchev wrote:
A source filter, perhaps?
Run away! :)
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searched below the current module, but can be
searched upper in the hierarchy using the ..:: syntax."
From:
http://search.cpan.org/~saper/relative-0.02/lib/relative.pm
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e abusing modules to
release once Test::Harness 3 is done. I should probably mention them
here at some point so everyone can point out that they already exist :)
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On 9 Oct 2007, at 09:22, Smylers wrote:
Well don't have them then -- put the assignment in the use statement,
which is run at BEGIN time anyway:
use Test::More tests => 1;
my $CLASS;
use ok $CLASS = 'DateTime';
Freaky. Nice :)
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On 9 Oct 2007, at 11:05, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
What a fucking joke.
If it's a joke you should use Comic Sans so everyone /knows/ it's funny.
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n bugs etc
confirms that people still aren't getting it right. So it must be hard.
This evening I started playing with String::Smart (the name is as
provisional as everything else). It lets you do
my $email = 'Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>';
my $enc = as html => $ema
.
I stressed the XSS/SQL injection angle - but it's as much about
decoupling and convenience as security.
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On 10 Oct 2007, at 22:07, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I stressed the XSS/SQL injection angle - but it's as much about
decoupling and convenience as security.
I've just uploaded String::Smart to CPAN. Comments welcome :)
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On 11 Oct 2007, at 11:46, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-10 22:45]:
Nice email address. :-P
It had to be done :)
This evening I started playing with String::Smart (the name is
as provisional as everything else).
Something with “language”,
n bugs etc
confirms that people still aren't getting it right. So it must be hard.
This evening I started playing with String::Smart (the name is as
provisional as everything else). It lets you do
my $email = 'Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>';
my $enc = as html => $ema
or the ./Build equivalents.
That doesn't stop make install doing something hoopy as root of course.
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On 12 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Andy Lester wrote:
What worries me is someone's gonna submit an otherwise useful module
to CPAN that uses this feature.
Oh no, THEN what? What's the tragedy there?
You're just being meta-negative Andy :)
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On 12 Oct 2007, at 17:59, Darren Chamberlain wrote:
I'm not sure how to do this without adding it to the core or using a
source filter.
Does constant overloading allow you to see the string early enough?
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house" for those
other escape methods, then that might be OK. But I'm very leery of
the idea that you may be copying the code from those modules (or
writing equivalent code).
It's a clearing house. It makes no assumptions about which
transformations you'll want to apply.
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On 29 Oct 2007, at 22:25, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
YAGNI does not apply either: this *is already* the overnext time.
The gravatar spat would’ve been solved by something like that
I missed that... Got a link?
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On 29 Oct 2007, at 23:33, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I missed that... Got a link?
Have now - thanks.
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On 22 Nov 2007, at 18:24, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:54:31PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote:
I notice that since Nick Img-Simmons' sad passing Tk seems
unmaintained. It certainly doesn't build on 5.10. I wonder if anyone
knows the status of it and whether
mon Cozens' modules, but never
got around to it. I think it would be tremendous to get Tk up and
running again. Heck, I might even help.
If there are no objections let's move ahead with that then. Could
someone give ANDYA and PETDANCE co-maint please?
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lowed to rot. Unless anyone thinks it's in poor taste I'd like to
take a crack at making the necessary changes so it keeps working.
Thoughts?
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need to be
satisfied.
I've offered to help if I can so if you don't have time to look at it
I could (assuming I can fix the problem) provide a patch.
Either way please let us know.
Thanks :)
On 18 Feb 2008, at 21:04, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 20:49 +,
ystem would find but my ad-hoc test
might miss.
I guess I could just try running whatever $Config{cc} suggests. Are
there any edge cases that that misses? Does $(CC) -o foo.o foo.c work
just about everywhere?
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On 25 Feb 2008, at 16:25, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 03:59:14PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote:
Is there a generally approved way for an XS module to test for the
existence of a C compiler before attempting to build?
Personally I'd like such a test to be standard in Make
ie.
Cool, thanks :)
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On 25 Feb 2008, at 18:10, Guy Hulbert wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 16:29 +, Andy Armstrong wrote:
Personally I'd like such a test to be standard in MakeMaker,
because
I am
of the (old fashioned) opinion that if %Config says that there is a
C
compiler and there isn't one, then
but I can imagine
that there are situations where it might not.
See also Windows, VMS, any other machine that doesn't have which.
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I'm using Devel::CheckLib and relying on David Cantrell to make it all
work. If there's a problem in his compiler detection logic it's more
likely to get fixed quickly than it is if I roll some ad-hoc code of
my own. It's also more likely to get detected before it impacts
directly on my module.
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On 25 Feb 2008, at 23:59, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Andy Armstrong wrote:
Is there a generally approved way for an XS module to test for the
existence of a C compiler before attempting to build?
MakeMaker uses ExtUtils::CBuilder->have_compiler() in it's tests.
It's worked
arded message:
From: Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6 March 2008 17:10:30 GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Tom spot Callaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Perl 5 Porters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Re: Data-Structure-Util fails tests on 5.10.0
On 6 Mar 2008, at 17:07, Nicholas Cla
y $point = $my_bar->grid(3, 5);
It's got to exist, right? I had a look but there are so many
^(?:Object|Data)::.* modules that it's a bit hard to see the wood for
the trees :)
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On 19 Jun 2008, at 00:35, Andy Armstrong wrote:
It's got to exist, right? I had a look but there are so many
^(?:Object|Data)::.* modules that it's a bit hard to see the wood
for the trees :)
Ah. I see:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Class-AutoAccess/
But that creates accessor/m
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