Re: Proposal: IO::Termios

2011-05-24 Thread Austin Schutz
IO::Tty. IO::Stty. I don't see what this really adds above and beyond the core POSIX module and those two, but if you really like your "combined" syntax I guess that's something. Austin Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: I've been getting annoyed lately at the awkward and insane steps required to

Re: avoid running CPAN as root

2010-01-12 Thread Austin Schutz
Smylers wrote: Andy Armstrong writes: On 12 Jan 2010, at 16:59, dhu...@hudes.org wrote: sudo requires that you enter your password each time you invoke it. Often sudo will be configured with a 15 minute grace period which means you only need to authenticate for the first make install / ./Bui

Re: Which Parser Generator to Use?

2009-09-08 Thread Austin Schutz
>> >> 1. Berkeley Yacc for Perl - works pretty well, but is kinda limited. >> I'm not sure what (if any) practical advantage this would have over bison. I get the sense it's less well maintained. >> 2. Parse::RecDescent - very impressive feature set, but a little slow, and has >> been under-

Re: Process for Removing Qt Module from CPAN

2009-05-27 Thread Austin Schutz
On Mon, 25 May 2009 18:00:12 -0700 Eric Wilhelm wrote: > # from Jonathan Yu > # on Monday 25 May 2009: > > >I'd like to remove the Qt module from CPAN, or be able to take it > > over. > > Hi Jonathan, > > That's a good question in general, but for Qt4, I'm inclined to say > that a better appro

Re: Module::Install is a time bomb

2008-09-30 Thread Austin Schutz
> You mean like how Module::Build broke over a YAML release and we spent over > a year cleaning up after it because every single user who ran into that > version mismatch had to have the problem explained to them? > > I still regularly see -ancient- versions of Module::Build installed lots of > pl

Re: Adding library inside cpan module

2008-09-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:56:00PM +0300, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: > Hi All. > > I have this module on CPAN, Data::ParseBinary. > now I want to add a library of pre-prepared format. For example, a > parser/builder for BMP files. > The question is, how do I call it? > some options that I though about

Re: Carp::nosigdie - needs a better name

2008-09-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 12:29:01AM -0700, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > package Carp::NoSigDie; > > use warnings; use strict; use Carp (); > use overload '&{}' => sub {sub {}}, fallback => 1; > > $SIG{__DIE__} = bless({}, __PACKAGE__); > > my $ended = 0; END {$ended = 1}; > sub DESTROY { r

Re: Port to PyConstructs

2008-07-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:27:09AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > * On Mon, Jun 30 2008, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: > > Hi All. > > > > I'm writing a port to PyConstructs. website of the original: > > http://construct.wikispaces.com/ > > > > In short, it's a library that parse binary structs. It can p

Re: Application Building

2008-04-28 Thread Austin Schutz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:19:37AM -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What Austin tries to do it to build an app that can be installed as an > > app, not as a Perl module. And then it is suddenly not as easy > > anymore.

Re: Application Building

2008-04-28 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 07:56:37PM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > That said, I always do this: (so apps can find libs w/ install_base set) > > package MyApp::Script::Whatever; > use Moose; > with 'MooseX::Getopt'; > > has ...; > sub run { ... } > > Then: > > #!/usr/bin/env

Re: Application Building

2008-04-25 Thread Austin Schutz
ite a simple application and just have it work and be distributable without a bunch of complexity or fooling around. It should be just as easy as distributing a module. ..shouldn't it? Austin > > -----Original Message- > From: Austin Schutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Application Building

2008-04-25 Thread Austin Schutz
Ok, so here's what must be a question with a really simple answer: how do I write a perl app? For example: I want to display a jpeg. MyApp/script/display.pl: #!/path/to/perl use Myapp::Display; Myapp::Diplay->new()->display('example.jpg'); __END__ MyApp/lib/Myapp/Display.pm .

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-09 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Excuse me, but Time::Cubic is no joke. It is a testament to the great > Gene Ray, and the message he has brought us from the year 2051. If CPAN is not a repository of testaments. No one opposes the publication of the

Re: EU::MM vs Module::Build

2006-12-31 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 02:25:49PM -0800, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > # from Paul LeoNerd Evans > # on Sunday 31 December 2006 03:14 am: > > >EU::MM can't, but I believe Module::Build can. That said, the > > consensus on #perl/Freenode is that the latter isn't really ready > > yet, so just use the forme

Re: Module naming mailing list? Was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 12:22:16PM -0800, Ovid wrote: > --- Austin Schutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, you and a few other vocal people have very strong opinions > > about this, which I don't begrudge you. Can we move the > > discussions to a different

Module naming mailing list? Was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 01:13:18PM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: > > > >Ok, I want to do something with my flash file. I search for > >'flash file'... Oh look, there's a flash file parser. Do I care > >what it's > >called? No. I concur that the module name is effectively > >meaningless, but I

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 07:32:04PM -0800, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > >It's better than the other examples, which doesn't mean it is good. > >  How about FileFormat:: ? > > > >FileFormat::GBF - Front end to GBF read/write interface > >FileFormat::GBF::Parser > >... > > Ok, but it's just SoooLoonng. > >

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 08:30:20AM +, Smylers wrote: > There are several places where somebody could first encounter a module > name: > > > Ok, I want to do something with my flash file. I search for > > 'flash file'... Oh look, there's a flash file parser. Do I care what > > it's called?

Re: Searching and Browing (was: Re: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-02 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 06:10:15PM -0600, John M. Gamble wrote: > >>The FF:: namespace is a terrible idea, in my opinion. I expect that > >>it will be meaningless to the majority of module searchers. The > >>argument that search makes names irrelevant is just silly. > >> > >> > > > > .

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-02 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:04:11PM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: > So, I already published it as FLV::Info, but this discussion has > convinced me that FileFormat::FLV is the best option. I may use that > name for v0.02. My only hesitation is that nobody else seems to be > using that top-level

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-02 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 03:31:48PM -0600, David Nicol wrote: > On 12/2/05, Austin Schutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As long as the name isn't taken and it has some amount of logic, I > > doubt the name of a module makes any practical difference any mor

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-02 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 09:50:19AM -0800, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > # from David Landgren > # on Friday 02 December 2005 08:25 am: > > >In about 10 days time, I'm going to forget utterly that FF means File > >Formats. Does it need to be so terse? > > Considering the number of file formats which curre

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-28 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 03:14:03PM -0500, Chris wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Andy Lester wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:32:11PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > * Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-28 16:05]: > > > > I thought I heard (or more pr

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-28 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 05:47:51PM +, Smylers wrote: > Andy Lester writes: > > > I don't think we need another CPAN at all. There's nothing wrong with > > putting "require 6;" at the top of Makefile.PL and keeping everything in > > one happy CPAN. > > There is a problem if it interferes with

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-27 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:57:39PM -0700, Ovid wrote: > --- Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's the former. While sourceforget if a viable resource, sooner or > > later we need to get the CPAN/Perl6 thing squared aware. > > "squared aware"? What the hell is that? > > *squared away*, dam

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-27 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:22:16PM -0700, Ovid wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm the "mentor" (not that he needs one) for brentdax on his Summer of > Code project. You can read a brief interview about it at > http://use.perl.org/~acme/journal/25664 and follow along in his journal > at http://use.perl.org/

Re: RFC: Getopt::Modern

2005-06-17 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:22:58PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Austin Schutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-17 22:45]: > > Imagine this is Eric's first try at publishing a module. > > Then what is <http://search.cpan.org/~ewilhelm/>? :-) > > You could take

Re: RFC: Getopt::Modern

2005-06-17 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 03:07:27PM -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > > On Jun 17, 2005, at 2:13 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > >* Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-17 20:15]: > >>I'm still trying to figure out why it's carried on this long. > > > >Calling the new module ::Modern and claiming that ::Long

Re: Win32::TieRegistry or Perl problem (?)]

2005-03-07 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:40:30AM +1300, Sam Vilain wrote: > Ken Williams wrote: > > > >On Mar 2, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Linda W wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure what perl does with invalid > >>character data in a variable when you try to manipulate > >>it by appending it to another value. > > > > > >There'

Re: Divide by 0 citation plea

2005-03-01 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 01:45:56PM -0600, Ken Williams wrote: > > If you allow positive and negative infinity as part of your numerical > system, then division by zero moves from "undefined" to > "indeterminate", so I suppose one could argue that division by zero > should be 'nan' rather than t

Re: Divide by 0? Was: Re: Introduction Letter

2005-03-01 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 08:13:46AM +, Fergal Daly wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 07:55:36PM -0600, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > > I like the one where you get the mathematically-correct (or at least > > mathematically-useful) infinity. > > > > $perl -le 'use bigint; $x = 1/0; print $x+1' > > i

Divide by 0? Was: Re: Introduction Letter

2005-02-28 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:43:31AM +1100, Andrew Savige wrote: > running this Perl program: > > use strict; > sub div_by_zero { exec("./a.out $_[0]"); die "should not be here" } > defined(my $pid = fork()) or die "fork: $!"; > if ($pid == 0) { > warn "child, my pid $$\n"; > div_by_zero(0);

Re: Module Name: Net::Lite::FTP

2005-01-05 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:19:31PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Austin Schutz wrote: > > Why not just add the functionality to Net::FTP? Or you could > > subclass Net::FTP and call it something clever like Net::FTP::TLS. > Because Net::FTP is wri

Re: Module Name: Net::Lite::FTP

2005-01-05 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:59:22AM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to release on CPAN simple FTP client implementation. > This module is very simple, but provides access to TLS-enabled servers, and > is going to be a testbed for few relatively new extensions to ftp, like > statefu

Re: Module naming advice

2005-01-04 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:55:08PM -0800, David Wheeler wrote: > On Jan 4, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Bruce J Keeler wrote: > > >I've always felt that this one should have a lowercase name, since it's > >rather pragma-ish. Are pragmas allowed outside of the core Perl > >distribution? Maybe it should be s

Re: MySQL::Backup?

2004-10-26 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:34:32PM -0400, Christopher Hicks wrote: > > > >When I read Mark's message I realized his point is what I'd been wanting > >to say in the first place; so the more _I_ think about it, the more > >DBIx:: seems like a completely inappropriate place for this module! > > How i

Re: Renaming module - Algorithm::SkipList

2004-08-03 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:57:12PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Orton, Yves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-03 13:17]: > > In my eyes data structures are pretty much inseperable from the > > algorithms that operate on them. > > I was asking because I wondered if you had particular objections > abou

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:26:56PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > *>Finally, here we are at a page with reviews. Frankly, I've never seen one of > *>these before, and I can't say that this one really does me a huge amount of > *>good. I'm much better served by reading the documentation (wh

Re: CGI::Uploader (was: CGI::FileManager)

2004-05-01 Thread Austin Schutz
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 07:58:02AM -0500, Mark Stosberg wrote: > > I can see two minor bugs that require little more than a line or two of > > changes to fix them, and one feature request which includes code. Are > > there some other bugs I'm missing? > > This bug is not minor: > http://rt.cpan.o

Re: running tests

2004-04-02 Thread Austin Schutz
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:51:11PM -0600, Andy Lester wrote: > > coded correctly. So it's desirable to see the results of the lower level > > tests first because running the higer level tests could be a waste of time. > > But how often does that happen? Why bother coding to optimize the > failure

Somewhat OT: Re: [RFC] PHP::DateTime

2004-03-09 Thread Austin Schutz
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 09:00:56PM -0600, Andy Lester wrote: > > An alternative, if everyone just thinks this is a dumb idea (I might agree) > > maybe just implementing PHP's date function as something like > > DateTime::Format::PHPdate (or somesuch) > > No, I think PHP::DateTime is the way to go.

Re: advice needed on Lingua::Identification

2004-02-26 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:27:22PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One possibility would be to force each known language to become a module > (Lingua:Identification::EN for English, etc)... the downside of this > solution is that once I have 50 languages, I'll have 51 modules... :-| > Still, CPAN

Re: Reshaping the modules list: a starting point, help remove the bias.

2004-02-24 Thread Austin Schutz
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 07:25:16PM +1300, Sam Vilain wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:32, Leon Brocard wrote; > The relevant review information may be out there on use.perl.org, > perlmonks.org, etc, you might say, but if they are all in one place > they are more likely to be kept current. >

Re: Paging Dr. Barr...

2004-02-19 Thread Austin Schutz
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 07:42:04PM +, Smylers wrote: > Austin Schutz writes: > Graham Barr posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the day before yesterday, > ostensibly using the address you quote above: > > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.modules/28606 > Cool, than

Paging Dr. Barr...

2004-02-17 Thread Austin Schutz
I'd like to make some changes to and fix some bugs in Error.pm, but I have had no luck in contacting either the author (Graham Barr, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or the maintainer (Arun Kumar, [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Ideally I'd like to take over maintenance since it doesn't seem to be getting updated on