Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-26 Thread William T
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mike Barborak wrote: > I think I see what you're saying. It seems like a very expensive > problem to solve. It must be a barrier to people choosing mod_perl to > develop their apps because it might be the case that their > distribution and installation process is m

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-25 Thread Fred Moyer
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mike Barborak wrote: > I think I see what you're saying. It seems like a very expensive > problem to solve. It must be a barrier to people choosing mod_perl to > develop their apps because it might be the case that their > distribution and installation process is m

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Barborak
I think I see what you're saying. It seems like a very expensive problem to solve. It must be a barrier to people choosing mod_perl to develop their apps because it might be the case that their distribution and installation process is more complex to develop and support than their actual applicatio

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-11 Thread William T
Whenever I creating shrink-wrapped software I always make packaging and distribution part of the development, qa and testing process. All packages for the platforms that we will be supporting. The reason I do this is to cut down on the customer support overhead. I've found you get less calls and

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread Mike Barborak
Thanks for the thoughts. I think as Steven said, it's hard to give specific recommendations without understanding the nature of the software being distributed. I didn't mention it before because I didn't want to bore anyone but I'll take that chance now. So the web server module that I'm wanting t

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Mike Barborak wrote: > So, can anyone point me at other software with these requirements and > their solution to this problem? You can look at the installer for Krang (http://krangcms.com) which builds the whole stack. There are also several approaches on CPAN, l

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread André Warnier
Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: ... Then we have a script that downloads and creates a cpan repository based on a config file to get the correct versions. Those modules we store locally and use as a distribution repository. Then we have an install script that install all those cpan modules based on /

RE: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread Morten Bjørnsvik
Subject: distributing software built on mod_perl Hello, We have built some software that depends on mod_perl and are working on how to distribute it to customers and have them install it. It seems the task we're asking of our customer is not for the faint of heart as it involves a lot of command

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread André Warnier
Steven Siebert wrote: ... Great answer, Steve. I have the same issue as the OP, and unfortunately, as you point out, there is no free lunch once the application is other than trivial. At least perl has the advantage to run "as is" on almost any platform. Mike, if you ever find a good solution,

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , Mike Barborak writes: >So, can anyone point me at other software with these requirements and >their solution to this problem? Particularly ones that have handled >theses issues well? Best Practical's Request Tracker might be a useful case study. http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/> It

Re: distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread Steven Siebert
Hi Mike, The information you provided indicates that you have determined your customer base for this application might not always have a dedicated IT staff to conduct these installs. Your company has a couple options in achieving this "last mile", which can be observed across the industry, mod_pe

distributing software built on mod_perl

2009-09-10 Thread Mike Barborak
Hello, We have built some software that depends on mod_perl and are working on how to distribute it to customers and have them install it. It seems the task we're asking of our customer is not for the faint of heart as it involves a lot of command line operations, an understanding of their web ser