Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-24 Thread Morbus Iff
>By the way, it's pretty reasonable to expect that someone who intends to >run your code under mod_perl will be able to either add a use lib >statement to httpd.conf or put your libs in /lib/perl/ which >is automatically added to @INC. Both of those avoid this issue I actually ended up using "Perl

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-23 Thread Morbus Iff
>Hmm. You must have some things inside a BEGIN or that are called from a >"use" that need these libs to be in @INC during the compile phase. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what it is - I'm not using any BEGIN's myself. >More to the point, I would expect you to have the same problem that you >had wi

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Sat, 2004-02-21 at 20:43, Morbus Iff wrote: > Well, without the BEGIN, running it as a normal CGI script failed entirely, > with the scripts not being able to find the modules. Hmm. You must have some things inside a BEGIN or that are called from a "use" that need these libs to be in @INC duri

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-21 Thread Morbus Iff
>> For what it's worth, I had to do this instead: >> >> BEGIN { unshift(@INC, qw(lib extlib)); } > >That's odd, because that's almost exactly equivalent to a "use lib" >call. Are you running this under PerlRun? PerlRun executes BEGIN >blocks every time, but Registry only executes them once. It

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-21 Thread Perrin Harkins
Morbus Iff wrote: For what it's worth, I had to do this instead: BEGIN { unshift(@INC, qw(lib extlib)); } That's odd, because that's almost exactly equivalent to a "use lib" call. Are you running this under PerlRun? PerlRun executes BEGIN blocks every time, but Registry only executes them on

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-21 Thread Morbus Iff
>The only reason it doesn't work the second time is that "use lib 'lib'" >happens at compile time. It's like a BEGIN block. To make it happen >every time, you could just do this: > >unshift(@INC, qw(lib extlib)); For what it's worth, I had to do this instead: BEGIN { unshift(@INC, qw(lib extl

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
At 7:53 PM -0500 2/19/04, petersm wrote: >Morbus Iff wrote: >> So, in my case, it appears that eval'ing the module in the .cgi script >> is my only solution, based on this bit from the porting guidelines: >> >> When running under mod_perl, once the server is up @INC is frozen >> and cannot be u

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread petersm
Morbus Iff wrote: > So, in my case, it appears that eval'ing the module in the .cgi script > is my only solution, based on this bit from the porting guidelines: > > When running under mod_perl, once the server is up @INC is frozen > and cannot be updated. The only opportunity to temporarily mo

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 18:33, Morbus Iff wrote: > So, in my case, it appears that eval'ing the module in the .cgi script > is my only solution, based on this bit from the porting guidelines: > > When running under mod_perl, once the server is up @INC is frozen > and cannot be updated. The only

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
At 6:27 PM -0500 2/19/04, Morbus Iff wrote: >>You are either getting the wrong module name in some cases, or it is not >>able to read the module file for some reason. Just check $@ for the >>message and find out. > > Can't locate LibDB/DB/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i58

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
>You are either getting the wrong module name in some cases, or it is not >able to read the module file for some reason. Just check $@ for the >message and find out. Interesting. I got: Can't locate LibDB/DB/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/li

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 17:38, Morbus Iff wrote: > * the first load of index.cgi uses no DB calls (well, > it does "use LibDB::DB", but DB.pm never gets around > to eval'ing MySQL.pm), so things are cached without it. > > * with all the modules and whatnot cached in the child, > a "u

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
>> I don't, however, do any error checking on that eval. > >Jinx! Heh, heh :) >> that if a) the eval fails or it gets cached or whatever, then >> b) I'd be returning a blessed object for a module that hasn't >> been loaded. *That* could cause the ->connect to not exist, >> thus causing my error. R

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 17:01, Morbus Iff wrote: > I don't, however, do any error checking on that eval. Jinx! > It seems > that if a) the eval fails or it gets cached or whatever, then > b) I'd be returning a blessed object for a module that hasn't > been loaded. *That* could cause the ->connect t

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 16:54, Morbus Iff wrote: > * LibDB::DB is correctly determining the database type. > > * LibDB::DB is correctly returning a blessed > class for that database type (LibDB::DB::MySQL). > > * LibDB::DB::MySQL->connect does exist. > > * LibDB::DB::MySQL->connect doe

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
>Alrighty. I've yet to figure out what my ->connect problem [1] is. >All my settings caching problems have been fixed, as I've yet to >duplicate the issue in about 300 to 400 loads. Anywhere I should >look? What I know: > >[1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modperl/message/57303 > Program fragme

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-19 Thread Morbus Iff
>>You can learn that you don't have a problem with globals that are in the >>current script's name space and not declared explicitly in any package. >>You may still have problems with globals in other packages, or closures. > >This, as well as http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modperl/message/57338, >p

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-18 Thread Morbus Iff
>> In an attempt to disprove my sanity, I did a quick swap out of >> Apache::Registry for Apache::PerlRun, expecting that a good portion >> of my problems [1] would go away. Oddly, they didn't. In fact, there >> seemed to be no difference whatsoever. Can I learn anything from this? > >You can learn

Re: Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-18 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 16:56, Morbus Iff wrote: > In an attempt to disprove my sanity, I did a quick swap out of > Apache::Registry for Apache::PerlRun, expecting that a good portion > of my problems [1] would go away. Oddly, they didn't. In fact, there > seemed to be no difference whatsoever. Can I

Wow. Uh. Heh. PerlRun and Seeming Caches...

2004-02-18 Thread Morbus Iff
In an attempt to disprove my sanity, I did a quick swap out of Apache::Registry for Apache::PerlRun, expecting that a good portion of my problems [1] would go away. Oddly, they didn't. In fact, there seemed to be no difference whatsoever. Can I learn anything from this? [1] http://groups.yahoo.com/