Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Geoffrey Young
> I think I need to read the Brigade docs again :). But, yeah, when I was > building the thing, I was kinda thinking about it like it was a filter. > Your approach sounds like it might be better though. it was just an idea that I had, and I hadn't investigated brigades to the point where I fu

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Stas Bekman
mock wrote: stupid when I try to attach something like Mail::Audit to it. Apache::Net::Server::Mail::SMTP::Mail::Audit::PGP or something of the like is just aesthetically sucky. So, suggestions please? That's exactly where the problem is with your name choice. If you plan to add things which ar

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread mock
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 02:29:16PM -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote: > > > You probably want to talk to Geoff, since he said he has already started > > working on it. May be he has enough dough, so that you can finish it > > off. And as he said it'll will in the APR:: namespace, so there is no > > coll

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread mock
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 09:35:57AM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > You probably want to talk to Geoff, since he said he has already started > working on it. May be he has enough dough, so that you can finish it off. > And as he said it'll will in the APR:: namespace, so there is no collision. > I s

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Geoffrey Young
> You probably want to talk to Geoff, since he said he has already started > working on it. May be he has enough dough, so that you can finish it > off. And as he said it'll will in the APR:: namespace, so there is no > collision. I suppose once the core supports it, you can just nuke it > from CP

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi guys, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Stas Bekman wrote: > when you write an application you give it some name ... unique and cool > ... e.g. Apache::MockMail Now that's nice! 73, Ged. -- Report problems: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html List e

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Stas Bekman
mock wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 03:38:17PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: Geoffrey Young wrote: By commenting on Apache::TieBucketBrigade I was trying to reserve that or a similar namespace for the modperl core. So later there would be no collision/confusion. oh, I didn't get that from your comme

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi all, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, mock wrote: > Apache::Net::Server::Mail::SMTP::Mail::Audit::PGP or something of the like is > just aesthetically sucky. So, suggestions please? You're quite right. I'm starting to think there should be some kind of an on-the-hoof database lookup for namespaces. 7

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-24 Thread mock
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 03:38:17PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > Geoffrey Young wrote: > > >>By commenting on Apache::TieBucketBrigade I was trying to > >>reserve that or a similar namespace for the modperl core. So later there > >>would be no collision/confusion. > > > >oh, I didn't get that from y

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: By commenting on Apache::TieBucketBrigade I was trying to reserve that or a similar namespace for the modperl core. So later there would be no collision/confusion. oh, I didn't get that from your comment. anyway, if something like that ever makes it into core it probably oug

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Geoffrey Young
>> hey, you weren't quite as enthusiastic when I mentioned it ;) >> >> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl-dev&m=107514358415593&w=2 > > > That's a totally different thing. What I said above is that it's > probably not the most urgent thing to do, if we ever want to get 2.0 > released

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: [...] I'm having a little difficulty figuring out how to create request which isn't HTTP. I'll move TestTieBucketBrigade and rerelease just as soon as I figure out how to make Apache::TestRequest do what I want. See: http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html#Pe

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Stas Bekman
mock wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:27:33AM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: Cool. It looks nice, but you shouldn't have rushed to release things on CPAN, IMHO. Why taking over the Apache::SMTP namespace if you don't implement a full SMTP protocol? It's usually a good idea to post a proposal here s

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: As for Apache::TieBucketBrigade, it's probably a good idea to make it a part of the mp2 core and implement it in C. hey, you weren't quite as enthusiastic when I mentioned it ;) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl-dev&m=107514358415593&w=2 That's a totally diffe

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Geoffrey Young
>> Note that it uses >> Apache::TieBucketBrigade, which is my attempt at making bucket >> brigades look >> like IO::Handles. heh, I started APR::TieBrigade (actually APR::TieBrigadePerl and APR::TieBrigadeC) a while ago but haven't quite finished them yet. > As for Apache::TieBucketBrigade, it'

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread mock
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:27:33AM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > Cool. It looks nice, but you shouldn't have rushed to release things on > CPAN, IMHO. > > Why taking over the Apache::SMTP namespace if you don't implement a full > SMTP protocol? It's usually a good idea to post a proposal here so w

Re: ANNOUNCE: Apache::SMTP

2004-02-23 Thread Stas Bekman
mock wrote: A while ago I attended an interesting talk by Stas at the Vancouver pm. The idea of building an SMTP server using mod_perl was mentioned and the task kind of appealed to me, so here's my first attempt at it. Note that it uses Apache::TieBucketBrigade, which is my attempt at making buc