Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-23 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 09:38:06AM +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > Say I have an Apache module called Apache::Foo 1.99 and an Apache::Foo > 2.00 for mod_perl 2. What happens when I want to release a new > "Apache::Foo 1.99"? Apache::Foo 1.99_01? > > Sounds too much like "use 5.008_001' to me, i.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-23 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
> Nope. That's a very bad idea. I don't want to go and rewrite all my code to > use Apache2::Request and dozens of other modules, which work exactly the same > as before, but their guts are different. I would tend to agree with Jay though: I would consider Apache and Apache2 are two different pr

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-23 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi guys, On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Stas Bekman wrote: > >>Guys, it's Christmas. > > eh? so? So you could at least mark this thread [OT]. :) 73, Ged. -- Reporting bugs: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Boris Zentner
Hi, Am Montag, 22. Dezember 2003 22:15 schrieb Stas Bekman: > This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). > > You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.10 for mod_perl 1.0 and its apps. > CPAN will now always try to install Apache-Scoreboard-2.xx, even when you > want it to install Apa

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Richard F. Rebel wrote: I didn't put a lot of thought into this but can't the makefile be made more intelligent and put *both* versions into the tarball? mod_perl-v1-1.9xx-v2-1.99xx.tar.gz Just an idea that might quickly resolve the issue without the back and forth and this and that about who's g

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Randy Kobes wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.10 for mod_perl 1.0 and its apps. CPAN will now always try to install Apache-Scoreboard-2.xx, even when you want it to i

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 09:41:29PM +, Ged Haywood wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Stas Bekman wrote: Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:28:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: ... Guys, it's Christmas. eh? so? Certainly. Well, not for another couple days. But

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: [...] Oh yeah, it was quite clear to me that it was an infrastructural problem. But yes, breaking it out into another datum will solve most of the problem. I'm still not happy with overloading it into the version number rather than the name, but perhaps there are couplings

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Richard F. Rebel
I didn't put a lot of thought into this but can't the makefile be made more intelligent and put *both* versions into the tarball? mod_perl-v1-1.9xx-v2-1.99xx.tar.gz Just an idea that might quickly resolve the issue without the back and forth and this and that about who's got the most 'right' sol

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Randy Kobes
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). > > You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.10 for mod_perl > 1.0 and its apps. CPAN will now always try to install > Apache-Scoreboard-2.xx, even when you want it to install > Ap

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 02:35:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > >>what you get back? 2.01. Right? No. > > > > Which sort of *makes* my point: they're *two separate modules*. > > They're not 2 different versions of the same module. > > Yes and No, depending on how you look at it. Yeah. The proble

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:38:17PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: The automatic tools don't *have* to: they're *told* which product to install by a human, no? No, they aren't. In PREREQ_PM in Makefile.PL you specify the minimal version of some module, CPAN/CPANPLUS will bring th

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 09:41:29PM +, Ged Haywood wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Stas Bekman wrote: > > Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:28:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > >... > > Guys, it's Christmas. Certainly. Well, not for another couple days. But I'm not mad

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi guys, On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Stas Bekman wrote: > Jay R. Ashworth wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:28:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: >... Guys, it's Christmas. 73, Ged. -- Reporting bugs: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ Mail list info: http://perl.apache.org/maillist/modperl.html

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:38:17PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > > The automatic tools don't *have* to: they're *told* which product to > > install by a human, no? > > No, they aren't. In PREREQ_PM in Makefile.PL you specify the minimal version > of some module, CPAN/CPANPLUS will bring the latest

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:28:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: that will allow several generations of modules with the same name coexist happily on CPAN. Until masses will start complaining I don't see this being resolved. Mostly because, IMHO, that is not the proper solution

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:28:40PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > >>that will allow several generations of modules with the same name > >>coexist happily on CPAN. Until masses will start complaining I don't > >>see this being resolved. > > > > Mostly because, IMHO, that is not the proper solution to

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.10 for mod_perl 1.0 and its apps. CPAN will now always try to install Apache-Scoreboard-2.xx, even when you want it

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0800, Stas Bekman wrote: > This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). > > You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.10 for mod_perl 1.0 and its > apps. CPAN will now always try to install Apache-Scoreboard-2.xx, even > when you want it to install Apa

[ANNOUNCE] Apache::Scoreboard 2:01

2003-12-22 Thread Stas Bekman
The uploaded file Apache-Scoreboard-2.01.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/S/ST/STAS/Apache-Scoreboard-2.01.tar.gz size: 14132 bytes md5: da1ac25b4821aab7046b2fb3ca893595 This is Apache::Scoreboard for httpd-2.0 (mod_perl 2.0). You will still need Apache-Scoreboard-0.