Re: Minor issue with AuthenNTLM

2012-04-04 Thread IP
I would also support the fact that big companies are still using NTLM for non-critical resources (as a convenience). This is also my goal here (to protect a non-critical resource). > For the future, the way to go is Kerberos; this is what Microsoft is pushing > in replacement for NTLM. Any good l

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Randolf Richardson
> Hi All, > So they did a complete rewrite without changing the hardware? > My guess is that the site on the same hardware would be substantially slower. A change to the database design, as well as database engine (e.g., to something fantastic like PostgreSQL), indexing strategies, e

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/4/2012 1:41 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: >> On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? It's >>> certainly a 5%-15% win. >> >> Not certainly. We did that and saw almost

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 4 Apr 2012, at 19:41, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: >> On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? It's >>> certainly a 5%-15% win. >> >> Not certainly. We did that and saw

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Fred Moyer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: > On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> >> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support?  It's >> certainly a 5%-15% win. > > Not certainly. We did that and saw almost no difference. I've done two perlbench sets of

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
demerphq schrieb am 04.04.2012 um 15:37 (+0200): > > When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? > >  It's certainly a 5%-15% win. > > Not certainly. We did that and saw almost no difference. As I see threads mentioned here: I know that there's some Perl threads knowledge o

RE: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Narins
> > print STDERR > > I don't use "print STDERR" much. So, I am not sure if you have to set > $|=1 for > the handle. What happens if you replace "print STDERR" by "warn"? The > postconfig phase comes after openlogs. So, STDERR should point to the > main > server errorlog. For now, to avoid any such

RE: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Narins
I see a hit in the access logs. I get an Internal Server Error. And still, the error log is completely silent. This is my problem. Without server errors I get a bit lost. >>> This seems to be a config with VirtualHosts. >>> Are you sure that you're looking in

Re: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Torsten Förtsch
On Wednesday, 04 April 2012 11:42:55 Josh Narins wrote: > print STDERR I don't use "print STDERR" much. So, I am not sure if you have to set $|=1 for the handle. What happens if you replace "print STDERR" by "warn"? The postconfig phase comes after openlogs. So, STDERR should point to the main

Re: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread André Warnier
Josh Narins wrote: I see a hit in the access logs. I get an Internal Server Error. And still, the error log is completely silent. This is my problem. Without server errors I get a bit lost. This seems to be a config with VirtualHosts. Are you sure that you're looking in the correct error logs

RE: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Narins
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RE: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Narins
> > I see a hit in the access logs. > > > > I get an Internal Server Error. > > > > And still, the error log is completely silent. This is my problem. > Without server errors I get a bit lost. > > > > This seems to be a config with VirtualHosts. > Are you sure that you're looking in the correct err

Re: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Torsten Förtsch
On Wednesday, 04 April 2012 10:42:47 Josh Narins wrote: > PerlModule Phase::PostConfig > PerlPostConfigHandler Phase::PostConfig::handler > > and putting in the very simple: > > use Apache2::Const -compile => 'OK'; > > sub post_config { > print STDERR "configuration is complete\n"; > ret

Re: Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread André Warnier
Josh Narins wrote: ... I see a hit in the access logs. I get an Internal Server Error. And still, the error log is completely silent. This is my problem. Without server errors I get a bit lost. This seems to be a config with VirtualHosts. Are you sure that you're looking in the correct er

Quiet Internal Server Errors

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Narins
I'm porting a large mod_perl1 application to mod_perl2. The server is now starting. If I mistype some server configuration, it gives me errors, so I know the configuration is being read. I tried adding this: PerlModule Phase::PostConfig PerlPostConfigHandler Phase::PostConfig::handler and put

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Dave Morgan
Hi All, So they did a complete rewrite without changing the hardware? My guess is that the site on the same hardware would be substantially slower. IMHO Dave On 04/04/12 08:23 AM, discobeta wrote: agree, any rewrite of old code should improve by at least 10%, even if it was written in

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread discobeta
agree, any rewrite of old code should improve by at least 10%, even if it was written in pascal On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, André Warnier wrote: > Rolf Banting wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> >> ... >>> >> >> If they were to >> >>> rewrite it in Perl t

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread André Warnier
Rolf Banting wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: ... If they were to rewrite it in Perl today, *it would go up again*! - Perrin No performance anxiety there then. Particularly with a non-threaded Perl, which allows Apache to fork multiple times..

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread demerphq
On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: >> Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. >> >> Sad news.  Just saw a blog >> >>   http://www.highscalability.com/ >> >> that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP.  Apparently the

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Mike OK
LOL - Original Message - From: Rolf Banting To: Perrin Harkins Cc: Jim Schueler ; modperl@perl.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: Re: highscalability.com report On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: ... If they were t

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Rolf Banting
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > ... If they were to > rewrite it in Perl today, *it would go up again*! > > - Perrin > No performance anxiety there then.

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: > that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP.  Apparently there's a > reported 10% improvement in speed, but I haven't noticed :). We lost YouPorn?! Tragic! I'd say the joke's on them though. If you rewrite an old site and only get a

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 04/04/2012 10:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: >> Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. >> >> Sad news. Just saw a blog >> >> http://www.highscalability.com/ >> >> that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP. Apparently there'

Re: Minor issue with AuthenNTLM

2012-04-04 Thread André Warnier
William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 3/30/2012 1:56 AM, Dami Laurent (PJ) wrote: -Message d'origine- De : André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] I was considering forking the module and fixing bugs like these, but I am not quite sure how much sense that makes given the fact that NTLM is deprec

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: > Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. > > Sad news. Just saw a blog > > http://www.highscalability.com/ > > that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP. Apparently there's a > reported 10% > improvement in speed, but I have

Re: Minor issue with AuthenNTLM

2012-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/30/2012 1:56 AM, Dami Laurent (PJ) wrote: >> -Message d'origine- >> De : André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] >>> >>> I was considering forking the module and fixing bugs like these, but I >>> am not quite sure how much sense that makes given the fact that NTLM is >>> deprecated tech