Re: [mp2.0.4] t/hooks/authen_basic (Wstat: 0 Tests: 4 Failed: 1)

2008-11-11 Thread Fred Moyer
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Chen, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May I ask about the httpd conf file for your apache2.2.10? > > Here are the LoadModule lines that I believe are relevant: You probably don't need these; if you don't have a 'Require User someusername' directive in your httpd

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Andrew Rodland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you _do_ want to keep static file serving apart from the app code (or else > incur the memory overhead of an app process for every file download), so you > do > need to go that frontend/backend route -- and it seems t

Re: [ot] Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Douglas Hunter wrote: I've been playing with the experimental event MPM for a front end caching reverse proxy, and have been very happy with the results so far. ditto. Witness it in use here: http://ridecharge.com PXY: httpd 2.2.9 w/ event mpm Cache: X APP: mongrel mongrel's replacement pass

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote: > Adam Prime wrote: >> The results of the mod_perl survey that Fred Moyer and I conducted can >> be found at the following link: > Interesting list. Any chance the workshop will come to Singapore? :) Not quite, but close... http://us.apachecon.com/c/accn2008/ (when this link breaks

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Adam Prime wrote: > André Warnier wrote: >> Maybe this is the time to ask. >> I am using Linux Debian, and getting Apache 2, perl and mod_perl 2 >> from there (apt-get). >> I have never been quite sure which mpm the packager decided to >> configure, as the apache2.conf contains parameters for prefo

[ot] Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Douglas Hunter
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Adam Prime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd really love to see a best practices kind of document, or at least a more detailed document that described getting the light front / heavy backend stuff working. The mp1 guide has a pretty extensive

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Rodland
Perrin Harkins elem.com> writes: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, David E. Wheeler kineticode.com> wrote: > > To a certain degree, Apache/mod_perl is a victim of the success of HTTP. > > It's fairly easy to implement a new HTTP server, so there are a lot of them, > > and many are easy to u

RE: [mp2.0.4] t/hooks/authen_basic (Wstat: 0 Tests: 4 Failed: 1)

2008-11-11 Thread Chen, Peter
May I ask about the httpd conf file for your apache2.2.10? Here are the LoadModule lines that I believe are relevant: LoadModule authn_file_module modules/mod_authn_file.so LoadModule authn_dbm_module modules/mod_authn_dbm.so LoadModule authn_anon_module modules/mod_authn_anon.so LoadModule authn

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Adam Prime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd really love to see a best practices kind of document, or at least a more > detailed document that described getting the light front / heavy backend > stuff working. The mp1 guide has a pretty extensive section on the vari

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Prime
Perrin Harkins wrote: It's the same with mod_perl: you can restart your backend server without touching the frontend proxy server. It's possible that some FastCGI implementations have a truly seamless way to do this though, holding requests while the backend restarts. I haven't played with it

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Octavian Rasnita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I've seen that many Catalyst developers prefer to use fastcgi and > not mod_perl, because when using fastcgi, the applications can be restarted > without restarting the whole web server. It's the same with mod_

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Octavian Rasnita
- Original Message - 2:49 PM, David E. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To a certain degree, Apache/mod_perl is a victim of the success of HTTP. It's fairly easy to implement a new HTTP server, so there are a lot of them, and many are easy to use and extremely fast. If all you're inter

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread John Siracusa
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, David E. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> To a certain degree, Apache/mod_perl is a victim of the success of HTTP. It's >> fairly easy to implement a new HTTP server, so there are a l

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread John Siracusa
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:27 PM, David E. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > >> I'm fine with people using other open source tools to get where they >> want to go but the justifications they make about mod_perl being >> heavier or slower rarel

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Fred Moyer
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Perrin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, David E. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've said this before, but I think this is not a very rational claim. > Network servers are actually pretty hard to get right and HTTP is no

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: I'm fine with people using other open source tools to get where they want to go but the justifications they make about mod_perl being heavier or slower rarely have any actual research behind them. Yeah, I wasn't making the case for mongrel or

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Peters
Hmm, this is making me want to run benchmarks! Maybe a solid set of benchmarks would be a fun OSCON presentation next year. ++ I've loved your other comparison talks in the past and this would be a nice one. Make sure to include the new Mojo (kind of like Mongrel but in Perl). -- Michael

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, David E. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To a certain degree, Apache/mod_perl is a victim of the success of HTTP. > It's fairly easy to implement a new HTTP server, so there are a lot of them, > and many are easy to use and extremely fast. If all you're intere

Re: mod_perl survey results

2008-11-11 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 10, 2008, at 3:46 AM, André Warnier wrote: - the rate of new people coming into the community has been declining. The responses there are indeed a bit scary. It feels like we're a dying breed. I believe this is to a large extent a "marketing issue" for perl in general, and mod_per

Re: [mp2.0.4] t/hooks/authen_basic (Wstat: 0 Tests: 4 Failed: 1)

2008-11-11 Thread Clinton Gormley
> Go forth and code! :) Go, Perl! (surely) :)