Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 02:16:52PM -0500, Daniel Jakots wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:49:28 +0100, Marc Chantreux > > some endless sterile debates > Like this thread, or worse? * long doesn't mean endless * sharing points of view is never sterile (yours is inspired by other

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 09:43:21AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 3/1/20 8:50 am, Marc Chantreux wrote: > >> Like this thread, or worse? > > * long doesn't mean endless > > * sharing points of view is never sterile (yours is inspired by other > > ones,

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:52:03PM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > > You have something like 3 lines of perl to play with ;) > > is there a todo list somewhere ? More or less in my head, with lots of subprojects progressing at any given time. - I want to retire PackageLocator a

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
t; mantra helps: it allows you the > latitude to choose the style that makes the most sense for the problem > being solved. yes ... but "it could be a default way because experience shown its convenience or ability to solve the most common problem" (which is what perl and raku do, i guess), is something that can be loved or hated. regards marc

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
ability to save bandwidth by setting up a temp list or adding a + alias. i add this in my todolist. regards marc

Re: perl popularity inside openbsd community? (Re: Suggestion: Replace Perl ...)

2020-01-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
> you can do by array Both of them are borring once you used the signatures but they are still experimental. Also: if you don't mind a new dependency: Function::Paramaters is so much convenient. regards marc

Re: Automated OS builds?

2020-01-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 06:08:55PM +, Paul Suh wrote: > On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Morten Gade Liebach wrote: > > > > Read release(8), then write a script runs through the described process. > > I can do that, and will if I have to, but if someone has already done it or > has a base to st

Re: But there is Fossil...

2020-01-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:34:55PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > One good thing with this trainwreck of a discussion is that it pointed > me to GoT. I've been looking for an alternative to CVS on my Amiga, > but git is too convoluted to even start trying to build on a > mostly-C89-semi-POSIX sys

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 09:07:38AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 9/1/20 12:56 am, Ian Darwin wrote: > >> - If we could clean-room implement a BSD-licensed > >> EXT3/EXT4/BTRFS/XFS/JFS/whatever, following style(8), would there be > >> interest in supporting that in OpenBSD? > > > > And which "

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-09 Thread Marc Espie
If you want a useful project related to filesystems, try the automounter. Yes, that ancient code. Look very closely. It has tendrils in NFSv2. And some people, most prominently Theo, use amd(8). Write an automounter that does not depend on NFSv2, and then, most probably we can kill NFSv2. Smal

Re: Awaiting a diff [was: Re: File systems...]

2020-01-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:28:07AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:44PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > On 20:06 Thu 09 Jan, Marc Espie wrote: > > > It's been that way for ages. But no-one volunteered > > > to work on this. > > > &

Re: SSIZE_MAX

2020-01-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 09:35:38AM +, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > Raymond, David writes: > > I am confused about SSIZE_MAX and read(2)/write(2). The POSIX > > SSIZE_MAX is something like 2^15 -1. This seems to be a real > > limitation when writing to a TCP/IP socket, as I learned from > > experi

Re: Can't locate OpenBSD/Quirks.pm in @INC

2020-01-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 01:41:20PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 07:46:23PM -0700, myml...@gmx.com wrote: > > > > On 1/17/20 7:25 PM, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2020-01-17 18:10, myml...@gmx.com wrote: > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > I downloade

Re: Can't locate OpenBSD/Quirks.pm in @INC

2020-01-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 01:41:20PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 07:46:23PM -0700, myml...@gmx.com wrote: > > > > On 1/17/20 7:25 PM, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2020-01-17 18:10, myml...@gmx.com wrote: > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > I downloade

Re: FreeBSD daemon(8)-like command for OpenBSD

2020-01-28 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, > PID=`pgrep gloob` > if [ -z "$PID" ]   >      then >     /usr/local/bin/gloob -f poor_security_a_bad_idea_to_run.conf >      fi is there a reason to not use the pgrep status ? pgrep -q gloob || /usr/local/bin/gloob regards, marc

Re: texlive_texmf-full package broken on cdn.openbsd.org

2020-01-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05:05:51PM -0600, Manuel Solis wrote: > Hello Misc, > > Just to confirm that the package textlive_texmf-full is broken on > cdn.openbsd and cloudfare.cdn.openbsd > > Error: > doas pkg_add textlive_texmf-full > quirks-3.182 signed on 2020-01-25T17:59Z > https://cloudfare.cd

Re: What TERM fixes Emacs?

2020-02-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 09:35:21PM -0800, Emilia wrote: > > > It is impossible to use Emacs on OpenBSD Terminal (no X). > > Look at this screenshots: > > On Linux / macOs -- this same version of Emacs and org-mode would > display this file with colors etc. As stuart said, pccon is the best

Re: size of size_t (diff angle)

2020-02-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 08:56:06AM +0100, zeurk...@volny.cz wrote: > Haai, > > The definition of size_t keeps biting me. > > Some background: in nnx, me's been using the equiv of caddr_t for > counts. This works well; yet, while writing against existing code that > uses size_t, an issue has surfa

Re: "not MAP_STACK" message in dmesg / system message buffer

2020-02-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 08:30:11PM -0500, Andre Smagin wrote: > Hello. > > While prototyping something in C, I made a mistake with > pre-processor macros, which I narrowed down to this: > > int > main() > { > char *test[10][2097152] = { { 0 } }; > } > > Running it results in > $ ./a.out

Re: size of size_t (diff angle)

2020-02-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:01:56PM +0100, zeurk...@volny.cz wrote: > Haai, > > "Marc Espie" wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 08:56:06AM +0100, zeurk...@volny.cz wrote: > > > > You're looking at the wrong type. size_t is very good for what it does. >

man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
|fmt' which doesn't work as | separates 2 vi commands. i really would like to know one or the two of these: * is there a way to ask man to deliver pure (non-formatted) text ? * is there a way to introduce a | in vi macros? regards marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
in vi's input > mode, press control-V twice. grmbl ... how could i have missed this one ... thank you! regards marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
ctly? regards, marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
b? i can probably learn more from it. regards marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc thanks for helping. marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
ges and answers on mailing list makes me aware of other options, features, alternative ways to do things and think about the problems. this is so much enjoyable than copy pasting from a top rated stackoverflow answer. > Only for low-quality software, searching the web may occasionally > be needed. so true. thanks marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
nd, the UNIX phlosophy is to have each tool do one > thing well, then use pipes to connect tools as needed. > arguably, you maybe shouldn't need another tool to just revert > something that the first tool does. > Why would *not* adding backspace > formatting require a pipe to another program, rather than not adding > it in the first place? can't reply on that: out of my skillset :) anyway: thank you very much for taking time help me. regards marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
s. so i finally think it's not worth ... col -b is an elegant solution. regards marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
ution. but as i said: i don't feel skilled enough to be sure of anything. your call ;) cheers marc

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 06:25:47PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Yikes. I had no idea what either of these are doing and had to > try them out. vi(1) contains so much bloat that is never really > needed and doesn't belong in a text editor at all. No, all of this does belong in a text editor. I

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 03:42:47PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 06:25:47PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Yikes. I had no idea what either of these are doing and had to > > try them out. vi(1) contains so much bloat that is never really > > needed an

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-04 Thread Marc Chantreux
and functionality existed, i'll use it for sure. marc PS: i'll run a workshop on vim/vi during the next slcon (not announced yet) so it will be a good opportunity to make this thread goes on.

Re: wifi profiles in hostname.if

2015-09-26 Thread Marc Peters
On 09/26/15 15:44, Chris Lobkowicz wrote: > Good day, I am curious if there is the possibility of adding/using multiple > profiles or network entries, much like ~/.ssh/config ? > I use the scripts provided by afresh1@. They're available at https://gist.github.com/afresh1/714984

Re: Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?

2015-10-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:59:32AM -0700, français wrote: > I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one audit > report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find on > the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not > opaqu

Re: Paris..

2015-11-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 04:10:53PM -0800, Ryan Freeman wrote: > Completely off-topic but I am concerned for the .fr devs.. > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/paris-police-report-shootout-at-restaurant-explosion-near-stadium/article27256201/ > > Can I get a ping to this thread from all

Re: Welcome-Mail

2015-11-16 Thread Marc Peters
OpenBSD 5.8!" that the ftp-protocol is still given. > > Instead > ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.8/packages > shouldn't this rather be > http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.8/packages ftp is still a valid option for packages. The installation via ftp is not supported anymore. Marc

Re: Logging removal of dependent packages

2015-11-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 05:20:54PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > Hi misc@ readers, Marc, > > Interactive removal of a package with pkg_delete $pkg_name also asks > the removal of dependent packages (cool). > > This works OK and logs the removal of the package $pkg_name in mes

Re: output of pkg_check(1)

2015-11-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:47:40AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > The output of "pkg_check -x -v -D nosig" > (full log bellow) on current/amd64 confuses me. > > Firstly, > > System libs NOT in locate dbs: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libEGL.so.0.0 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.15.0 > /usr/X11R6/li

Re: VAX - are we dropping support in 5.9?

2016-01-25 Thread Marc Espie
It's dead Jim.

Re: Can not get DPB to use _pbuild user

2016-02-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 12:01:19PM +0100, Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri wrote: > (I realized this thread should possible been sent to ports@, sorry) > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 09:42:47PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > On 2016-02-08, Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri wrote: > > > > > I'm trying

vlan on trunk member not permitted

2016-02-09 Thread Marc Peters
groups: vlan The vlan interface should have em0 as vlandevice, as vlan6 is provided only on wire for now: ~ $ more /etc/hostname.vlan6 vlan 6 vlandev em0 inet6 autoconf I know there were several major changes to the network stack and the drivers but is this configuration not permitted anymore? d

Re: vlan on trunk member not permitted

2016-02-10 Thread Marc Peters
Am 02/10/16 um 10:44 schrieb Kapetanakis Giannis: > Maybe iwn0 does not support vlan? > > I don't see anything relative on it's product brief sheet. > http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-briefs/centrino-advanced-n-6205-brief.pdf > > > Did you try to start vlan 6 o

Re: vlan on trunk member not permitted

2016-02-11 Thread Marc Peters
Am 02/10/16 um 13:54 schrieb Stuart Henderson: > > trunk is normally for interfaces which are completely interchangeable, > i.e. configured identically from a layer-3 point of view (same > subnets/vlans/etc). > > If it used to work with em0 being both a vlandev and a trunkport, > that was probabl

Re: Strange 'pkg_add -ui' log

2016-02-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:36:48PM +0100, Stefan Wollny wrote: > Hi there! > > Running amd64-current I update packages usually from > http://ftp.hostserver.de/ > > This evening system.tgz-files still date Feb 9th. > $ dmesg | grep Open > OpenBSD 5.9 (GENERIC.MP) #1870: Mon Feb 8 17:34:23 MST 201

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Marc Peters
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: lpd is not very chatty when it comes to errors, though. Marc

Re: pkg_info fails for non-installed packages when PKG_CACHE is set to a directory the current user can't write to

2017-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:05:53PM +0200, Lari Rasku wrote: > Oct 27 snapshot, amd64. > > When PKG_CACHE is set: > > $ cat /etc/profile > export PKG_CACHE=/var/cache/pkg > > To a directory the current user lacks write access to: > > $ touch /var/cache/pkg/somefile > touc

Re: pkg_info fails for non-installed packages when PKG_CACHE is set to a directory the current user can't write to

2017-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 11:51:52AM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 09:05:53PM +0200, Lari Rasku wrote: > > Oct 27 snapshot, amd64. > > > > When PKG_CACHE is set: > > > > $ cat /etc/profile > > export PKG_CACHE=/var/cache/pkg &

Re: FOSDEM 2018 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 06:54:56AM +0100, somebody wrote: > Hold on a sec, that's not my nick. I'm provisionally using my bf's > account (with permission!). Just saying since this will end up in the > archives and it shouldn't be ascribed to him. Not my problem. You're on a technical list, sendin

Re: How help about to review FAQ?

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 09:54:32PM +0100, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD" wrote: > Hi. > > My question is how help about to review FAQ. Where submit corrections? > > Example with https://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html > > => Into "Getting and installing OpenBSD/macppc" section, it wrote: > boot cd:,ofwb

Re: How help about to review FAQ?

2017-11-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:49:57PM +0100, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD" wrote: > Thank you! :D > > Do I have to create a new mail with just the page name to put the > corrections proposals I was talking about "OpenBSD/macppc" page? > if you're familiar with cvs and diff, best way is to cook an actu

Re: Keeping up to date with ports and putting ports/pobj on wxallowed filesystem

2017-11-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 02:04:39PM -0500, Jeff wrote: > Is this a rational solution to the problem? I'm somewhat regretting > going this route as, unlike with pkg_add, building some ports from the > tree pulls in more dependencies than via pkg_add (I am assuming that > these are build dependencies

Re: obligatory leaving letter

2017-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 05:17:05PM -0600, Jay Williams wrote: > As a new user to OpenBSD, who is trying to learn as much as I can, seeing a > message like this is very disheartening. OpenBSD's security focus and passion > for clean, minimal and secure code is something that the world definitely > n

Re: obligatory leaving letter

2017-11-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 02:26:44AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Admittedly, if you look at the list of developers, it is impossible > to deny that OpenBSD is not the most succcessful project ever with > respect to inclusiveness. I had to do a double-take to grok that one. EDOUBLENEGATIVEABUSE

Re: TRIM on SSD

2017-12-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 09:31:40PM -, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2017-12-06, ti...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > > If TRIM would be implemented someday, one thing that would be > > neat would be that crypto and other softraid would propagate the > > TRIM. That would be a nice combination b

Re: Need an advice about DHCP IPv6 server software

2017-12-09 Thread Marc Peters
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 01:50:37PM +0300, Denis wrote: > Can you share IPv6 part of PF.conf you're using for local network SLAAC? Did you even bother to open the link Claus send? There is everything neatly documented you need IPv6 wise to get it up and running with pf. hth, Marc

Roaming Laptop and slaacd

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Peters
;/usr/sbin/slaacctl send solicitation trunk0" in /etc/apm/resume but need to fire this command again to get addresses and routers when resuming my laptop. If you would like me to test some code for this, just let me know and i will happily do. Cheers, Marc

Re: Why would you use make show rather than make -V in ports?

2017-12-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:57:27PM +, Thomas Levine wrote: > The normal port Makefile includes this "show" target. > > $ grep -A3 ^show: /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk > show: > .for _s in ${show} > @echo ${${_s}:Q} > .endfor > > Why would one use it rather than ma

Re: mpv zombie process, lock sound device upon suspending process

2017-12-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 12:21:23PM -0200, x9p wrote: > > On Tue, December 26, 2017 11:44 am, Klemens Nanni wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 08:56:12AM -0200, x9p wrote: > >> If someone can give it a try, I had found no solution to free the sound > >> device or to kill a > >> mpv zpmbie process.

Re: openbsd code coverage

2018-01-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:40:33AM +0100, Aron Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm working on measuring OpenBSD code coverage. > > > Code coverage of what? The regression-tests make target? > > Cheers > Aron Obviously.

iked random tunnel drops

2018-01-18 Thread Marc West
I have an iked tunnel between two sites, both 6.2 with two machines at each site running carp and sasyncd. This normally runs flawlessly but there have been several events where tunnel traffic randomly drops. Sometimes everything reestablishes automatically about 5 minutes later, but in some cases

Re: iked random tunnel drops

2018-01-22 Thread Marc West
On 2018-01-18 23:06:31, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 04:57:14PM -0600, Marc West wrote: > > I have an iked tunnel between two sites, both 6.2 with two machines at > > each site running carp and sasyncd. This normally runs flawlessly but > > there have been

Re: wxallowed flag

2018-01-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:56:15PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > Hi! > > Is this a really good idea to keep wxallowed flag on /usr/local by > default? Is this so scary that many poop software will break (this is > not a big loss at all)? After all not enabling this flag by default is > the right thing

Re: wxallowed flag

2018-01-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 01:52:10PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:56:15PM +0200, mazocomp wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Is this a really good idea to keep wxallowed flag on /us

Re: iked random tunnel drops

2018-02-20 Thread Marc West
On 2018-01-23 08:26:43, danial wrote: > I had something similar happening. In my case I solved it by disabling NAT-T > on one end. Unfortunately disabling NAT-T did not have any effect, the issue has occurred 2 additional times since restarting with -T. There is no NAT or firewall between these ma

Re: Please explain the pkg_check F option, thank you.

2018-02-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:14:51PM +, Zsolt Kantor wrote: > What exactly does the pkg_check -F option? If I use it, it does some > filesystem check, and some "Locating unknown files". > > At the end I get: "Locating unknown files: ok", "Locating unknown > directories: ok", and a long list o

Re: Please explain the pkg_check F option, thank you.

2018-02-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 07:48:34PM +, Zsolt Kantor wrote: > Thanks Sebastien, I just figured out this. Now everything is clear. > If I may propose something . . . those "Not found" items even if it is not an > error, is a little bit misleading . . . From a simple user's point of view > the pk

Re: OSPF over gif on top of IPsec transport -current

2018-03-13 Thread Marc Peters
working > via gif + esp transport. With the current state of gif these setups will > break. Our setup relies on gif interfaces and ipsec in transport mode, too. When setting this up, we had issues with the gre setup and gre packets itself brings in more headers, which would reduce the payload. That's why we are using ipsec (in transport mode) protected gif tunnels for ospf and bgp. Best, Marc

Re: OSPF over gif on top of IPsec transport -current

2018-03-13 Thread Marc Peters
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 05:33:11PM +0100, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: > I moved over to etherip(4) some time ago. In transition to etherip, combo of > etherip on one side and gif on another worked well. > I also remember announcement of gif(4) to be retired. > > HISTORY > The gif device first a

Re: ipv6 nd

2018-03-20 Thread Marc Peters
; getting any global address. > > Anyone here that can set me into the right direction ? I use dhcpcd for on the WAN Interface to receive the prefix delegation. On the internal network, i use slaac with rtadvd. The README for dhcpcd provides the necessary information. hth, Marc

Re: ipv6 nd

2018-03-20 Thread Marc Peters
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 08:47:26AM +0100, Mischa wrote: > > On 20 Mar 2018, at 08:41, Marc Peters wrote: > > > > I use dhcpcd for on the WAN Interface to receive the prefix delegation. On > > the internal network, i use slaac with rtadvd. The README for dhcpcd &g

Re: ipv6 nd

2018-03-20 Thread Marc Peters
other DHCP. The main difference would be, that dhcpcd is actively maintained ;). Marc

Re: SunBlade 150 to take at Lyon, France and ideas about 3 T1000 to replace, if possible.

2018-03-21 Thread Marc Peters
EU customer, you could also buy them in a different EU country (eg. Netherlands or Germany). hth, Marc

Re: SunBlade 150 to take at Lyon, France and ideas about 3 T1000 to replace, if possible.

2018-03-21 Thread Marc Peters
Am 21. März 2018 14:36:31 MEZ schrieb Tinker : >Did Supermicro release non-AMD64 hardware recently? If I understood the >OP right he wants non-AMD64. Ah, missed that part. -- Sent from my cell phone

Re: "pkg_add automake%latest" can be done, or user needs to script it himself?

2018-03-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 02:46:58AM -0400, Tinker wrote: > Hi! > > Some packages, such as automake and autoconf, come in more versions > within the same flavor. > > Certain ports will depend on a particular version of a package, and > that's why more versions of the same package and flavor are > d

Re: Confusing with 'perl /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/clean-old-distfiles' script

2018-04-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 07:42:31PM +0100, Nigel Taylor wrote: > On 04/05/18 17:52, Denis wrote: > > I try to clean 'old' distfiles by a command 'perl > > /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/clean-old-distfiles' without success. > > > > Getting this: > > 'No history to prune at > > /usr/ports/infrastruct

Re: Using ports and updates to the release

2020-10-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 09:12:13PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Ed Gray wrote on Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 07:21:32PM +0100: > > > I'm still fairly new to openbsd and the idea of using ports > > in general rather than binary packages. > > You are usually better off using packages than usi

Re: pkg_add version scripting ?

2020-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 12:23:44PM +, Laura Smith wrote: > Hi > > As far as I can tell from the docs, only pkg_info supports spec style ? > > I am trying to script an OpenBSD setup and as part of that certain packages > need to be installed. For most packages that is not a problem, however,

Re: pkg_add version scripting ?

2020-11-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 12:59:22PM +, Laura Smith wrote: > > > I did actually try "pkg_add gnupg%2" but pkg_add didn't like that. Will go > try "pkg_add gnupg%gnupg2" instead The branches are directly picked from the pkgpath in the ports tree. It's the one case where they have an actu

Re: OpenBSD: Failing to link custom libpng to custom libz, any thoughts how fix?

2021-02-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 02:17:14PM -, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2021-02-23, Bob wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to make a custom build of libpng in my home directory, > > using a libz build that I made in my home directory also. > > > > Both are latest version, libpng 1.6.37 same as Open

Re: GCC only on OpenBSD adds -L/usr/lib as prefix, why? Re: OpenBSD: Failing to link custom libpng to custom libz, any thoughts how fix?

2021-03-03 Thread Marc Espie
Do you have some actual reason to use gcc for that project instead of clang ?... as far as -L goes you've got a lot of choices, between linking directly to the .so, linking with --nostdlib and putting back the pieces manually. it's been a long time since I've last looked at gcc, we've moved to

Re: GCC only on OpenBSD adds -L/usr/lib as prefix, why? Re: OpenBSD: Failing to link custom libpng to custom libz, any thoughts how fix?

2021-03-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 06:10:22PM +, Bob wrote: > Does that -L/usr/lib really need to be in the leading position??? I have zero idea how to do that purely in specs. Have fun tinkering. This is probably something we'll adopt but low priority. > * Where is GCC's default specs file say fo

Re: Documentation on OpenBSD's 3-process privsep model?

2021-03-30 Thread Marc Espie
es pointed to skeleton examples at > > github.com/krwesterback/newd and github.com/krwesterback/newdctl, but > > those repos are now dead and it's unclear how authoritative they were > > in the first place. > > > > > > Blind leading the blind here, but I t

Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-22 Thread Marc Espie
Is this a new UMF experiment ?

Re: Fwd: rethinking terminal login with security in mind

2021-05-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 01:44:24AM +0200, Alessandro Pistocchi wrote: > Sorry, my keyboard went crazy and the message was sent incomplete. > > Continuing: normally the entry of username is immediately followed by the > password entry. > However, if the OS is busy for any reason between the two ent

Re: Can't compile php from ports

2021-05-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 11:08:00PM +, Mik J wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone knows why compiling php from ports systematically fails ? It's > been since openbsd 6.8 that it acts this way Why do you ask this on misc@ instead of ports@ ? Second, it actually works for all of us... so it must be so

Re: Packages/libraries in disarray after sysupgrade

2021-05-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 10:47:11PM +, tetrahe...@danwin1210.me wrote: > After upgrading 6.8->6.9 (stable, not current) using sysupgrade, I am > finding it not possible to install packages via pkg_add > > When I try to install something, I get a series of errors like " dependency library name>:

Re: Who is responsible for ports.su? (admittedly a non-canon resource)

2021-06-15 Thread Marc Espie
I think that his approach is doomed to fail. There are a lot of tricky parts to flavors and multipackages and normalization. If you don't use the actual ports/packages framework code, you have to figure it out all over again by yourself. and there are lots of gremlins. The official code is bas

Re: Why 16 year old zlib 1.2.3 in OpenBSD 6.9 released May 2021 please?

2021-07-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 02:56:16PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > I think the easiest path here is to incorporate the new upstream into a > > port, unless someone is familiar with zlib and can cherrypick out the > > commit(s) that resolve the issue. (I didn't find zlib in ports already.) > > That

Re: Why does `pkg_info -m` show quirks?

2023-08-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:21:58PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi, > > Stuart Henderson wrote on Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 05:52:07PM -: > > On 2023-08-18, l...@ena.re wrote: > > >> Also, what is the reason the quirks package does not have a man page? > > Usually, there is no manual page docum

Re: Update from 6.5 to 7.3

2023-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 06:36:57PM +0200, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > > > Il 08/09/23 18:24, Peter N. M. Hansteen ha scritto: > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 10:01:45AM +0200, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > > > I've a problem. I need to upgrade OpenBSD from 6.5 to 7.3 on an APU2D. > > > This > > > is a fir

Re: pkg_add -vV slow progression

2023-09-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 09:17:58PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any recent major change in base packages or pkg_add? > I ask because the pkg_add -vV is slower than usual at each package, > most of the time spent in Extracting ... phase. > I use amd64 recent snapshot. I checked

Re: undocumented command switches -OR- fix documentation fully

2023-09-23 Thread Marc Espie
Apart from the obvious troll, I believe there is a point. >From time to time, I go to other projects and try to figure out how far we are from compatibility... Not documenting compat options means that somebody outside the project would have to guess at stuff, instead of just reading the manpage

Re: undocumented command switches -OR- fix documentation fully

2023-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
Don't rant that long. Sometimes, documentation and code get out-of-synch for a lot of reasons. - trying out stuff and documenting later. - plain forgetting to update the documentation. - having some stuff for a transition period, and then killing it. Your point that stuff that stays around, shou

Re: undocumented command switches -OR- fix documentation fully

2023-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:05:40PM +0200, Rudolf Leitgeb wrote: > If you document a switch, you are basically required to keep that > functionality around forever. Given that the OpenBSD devs don't like > these --options all that much, I don't see that happening. Submitting > a patch won't change t

Re: Understanding -current as 7.4 is released

2023-10-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 12:45:56PM -0400, Ronald Dahlgren wrote: > Hello friends, > > I’ve been running -current for several months now. Recently I started using > “-D snap” when updating packages with pkg_add. > > I ask the list to help me understand what, if anything, I need to do with > my mac

Re: ldd error with setuid/setgid binaries

2023-10-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:41:12PM +0900, Yoshihiro Kawamata wrote: > From: "Theo de Raadt" > Subject: Re: ldd error with setuid/setgid binaries > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 06:35:51 -0600 > > > You don't explain why you need to do this. You just completely skipped > > that. > > You don't justify w

Re: ldd error with setuid/setgid binaries

2023-10-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 09:38:32PM +0200, Theo Buehler wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 01:39:00AM +0900, Yoshihiro Kawamata wrote: > > From: Marc Espie > > Subject: Re: ldd error with setuid/setgid binaries > > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:04:45 +0200 > > > > &

Re: mount softdep — does it improve the situation for unexpected shutdowns?

2023-11-05 Thread Marc Espie
Not quite sure how much has been discussed publically, but we don't currently have the manpower to handle lots of complicated parts, and it seems that softdep, in its current state, needs the hand of Kirk McKusick to work. So the current strategy has been to make the moving parts simpler (softdep,

Re: __dead

2023-11-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 03:08:18PM +, Lucretia wrote: > I've seen __dead a few places in the source code, does this mean it isn't > functional anymore, or maybe just deprecated? > It's the old non-standard representation for __attribute__(__noreturn__) in code, to stop the compiler whining

Re: Upgrading, release by release, from 6.8 to 7.4 -- my experience

2023-11-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 03:12:09PM -0700, Austin Hook wrote: > One little glitch from all the process is that somehow I must have lost a > file or failed to delete a file that has something to do the default > character set files or pointers for xterm under "fvwm". A new xterm > starts automati

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