Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Tom Smyth
Hi Christian, if you were to have a 1MB file or a database that needed to read 1MB of data, i f the partitions are not aligned then your underlying storage system need to load 2 chunks or write 2 chunks for 1 MB of data, written, So *worst* case you would double the workload for the storage ha

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:20:10AM +0100, Tom Smyth wrote: > Hi Christian, > > if you were to have a 1MB file or a database that needed to read 1MB > of data, i > f the partitions are not aligned then > your underlying storage system need to load 2 chunks or write 2 > chunks for 1 MB of data,

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello Otto, Christian, I was relying on that paper for the pictures of the alignment issue, VMFS (vmware file system)since version 5 of vmwarehas allocation units of 1MB each https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2137120 my understanding is that SSDs have a similar allocation unit setup of 1MB

Trusted Boot with OpenBSD

2021-04-21 Thread podolica
Hi all, I have tested if the trusted boot implementation of Julius Zint for OpenBSD 6.5 (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=158255450604977&w=2) is still working in OpenBSD 6.8. Despite of some patch files that had to be updated, all changes needed to be applied can be applied and Trusted Boot c

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:56:59AM +0100, Tom Smyth wrote: > Hello Otto, Christian, > > I was relying on that paper for the pictures of the alignment issue, > > VMFS (vmware file system)since version 5 of vmwarehas allocation > units of 1MB each > > https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2137120

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Tom Smyth: > if you were to have a 1MB file or a database that needed to read 1MB > of data, i > f the partitions are not aligned then > your underlying storage system need to load 2 chunks or write 2 > chunks for 1 MB of data, written, You seem to assume that FFS2 would align a 1MB file on an

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Tom Smyth
Christian, Otto, Thanks for your feedback on this one Ill research it further, but NTFS has 4K, 8K 32K and 64K Allocation units on the filessystem and for Microsoft windows running Exchange or Database workloads they were recommending alignment of the NTFS partitions on the 1MB offset also.

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Kent Watsen
I’m running OpenBSD on top of bHyve using virtual disks allocated out of ZFS pools. While not the same setup, some concepts carry over… I have two types of pools: 1) an “expensive" pool for fast random IO: - this pool is made up stripes of SSD-based vdevs. - ZFS is configured

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Kent Watsen
[My previous message was somewhat garbled when reflected back at me. It looks better in the archives here: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=161902769301731&w=2. I’m resending as plain-text to see if the problem is on my end.] I’m running OpenBSD on top of bHyve using virtual disks allocat

Re: default Offset to 1MB boundaries for improved SSD (and Raid Virtual Disk) partition alignment

2021-04-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2021-04-21, Kent Watsen wrote: > - When ZFS is told to use the SSD, it starts the partition > on sector 256 (not the default sector 34) to ensure good > SSD NAND alignment. The OS doesn't get all that close to the NAND layer with typical computer component SSD drives, t

Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-21 Thread Balder Oddson
Whereof everyone is interested, A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special. #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things. #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do work during weak force pull. #1.2 physical, independent IC's, relying on physics for

Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-21 Thread Ashton Fagg
My ssh keys make more sense than this gibberish. Balder Oddson writes: > Whereof everyone is interested, > > > > A few things about his architecture is extraordinary special. > > #1 ideal properties, can never be done better for some things. > #1.1 analogue, you need ground and good drain, to do

Re: Cultural underground legende Seymour Cray and his legacy

2021-04-21 Thread escapeinsert
>On the one hand, where this gives 8x the performance at a high price, it >likely caused as much awe, inspiration and anxiety in the finance sector >where Cray got the funding to research, build and sell these beasts. > >The Cult of the Holy Cow, and The Cult of the Dead Cow are oxymorons if >the c

Re: Trusted Boot with OpenBSD

2021-04-21 Thread tetrahedra
That's very interesting, and good work patching the assembly code. On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:26:18AM +, podolica wrote: Hi all, I have tested if the trusted boot implementation of Julius Zint for OpenBSD 6.5 (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=158255450604977&w=2) is still working in Ope