startx vs xdm

2016-02-16 Thread Jan Stary
There seems to be a difference between an X session initialized by startx(1) and one launched by xdm(1). When I start an X session via startx, the settings specified in ~/.Xresources seem to be honoured. A session started via xdm(1) does _not_ honour XTerm*utf8: true XTerm*loc

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:15:58AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > There seems to be a difference between an X session > initialized by startx(1) and one launched by xdm(1). > > When I start an X session via startx, the settings > specified in ~/.Xresources seem to be honoured. > A session started via x

OpenBSD 5.8 ikev2 road warrior setup with various clients

2016-02-16 Thread George Mamalakis
Hi all! I'm trying to configure an ikev2 VPN gateway on my OpenBSD 5.8 box to allow remote access to my local network from various, road-warrior client "types" (MS Windows, Linux's, BSD's). My example local network is 10.0.0.0/24 and my public IP (egress) is 1.2.3.4. I've read various guides

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-16 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:32:05AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:15:58AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > There seems to be a difference between an X session > > initialized by startx(1) and one launched by xdm(1). > > > > When I start an X session via startx, the settings

Re: pf, bridge and vether: interface with no group

2016-02-16 Thread Clemens Goessnitzer
On 2016-02-16 11:17, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:10:41 +0100, > Clemens Goessnitzer a écrit >> Hello misc, > > Hi > Salut! > >> So, if I specify a group for re1, everything is working as expected. >> However, if re1 is not a member of any group, DHCP request are blocke

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:03:13 +0100 Karel Gardas > > ..And therefore you need enterprise disks because they behave "cleanly", as > > when using those only, essentially full softraid QoS is maintained at all > > times. > > Interesting! I've understand Nick excellent email in completely > reversed se

Re: Hardware compatibility

2016-02-16 Thread Gabriele Tozzi
> That was early on, but you should probably see NXE in the dmesg of all > intel cpus these days. > > [...] > > I'm not certain I have tried exactly Pro 1000 PT Dual, but all intel gig > dual cards > I did try worked like a charm. I assume the quads work out nicely too. The card arrived today a

Re: pf, bridge and vether: interface with no group

2016-02-16 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 16 Feb 2016 00:10:41 +0100, Clemens Goessnitzer a écrit : > Hello misc, Hi ... > So, if I specify a group for re1, everything is working as expected. > However, if re1 is not a member of any group, DHCP request are blocked > by pf, as tcpdump shows. Is this intended behaviour? Or have

Storage server HW advice/feedback req for setup overall & in particular reliability/QoS of SATA, to protect from controller- or BIOS-induced system crashes? Dedicated PCI SATA HBA needed??

2016-02-16 Thread Tinker
Hi, This is to ask you for your thoughts/advice on the best hardware setup for an OpenBSD server. This email ultimately reduces to the question, "What HW & config do you suggest for minimizing the possibility of IO freeze or system crash from BIOS or SATA card, in the event of SSD/HDD malfunction

ksh search history backwards patch still available

2016-02-16 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, does anybody have a patch described here http://tech.openbsd.narkive.com/Ns42EcmB/patch-to-ksh-adding-history-search-backward-forward which can be applied to the 5.8 release? (direct use of the linked patch fails at a few places...) Thanks Ruda

Re: bringing degraded softraid online

2016-02-16 Thread Joel Sing
On Saturday 06 February 2016 16:09:53 Johan Huldtgren wrote: > > Not sure. Perhaps these drives don't have good meta data due to the > > crash? > > Can you set sr_debug = SR_D_STATE | SR_D_META and see if that prints > > anything informative? > > well we now get lots more: > > softraid0 at root >

Re: pf, bridge and vether: interface with no group

2016-02-16 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:05:51 +0100, Clemens Goessnitzer a écrit : Ok I think : the pf.conf rule ### rules for internal network ### pass inet proto { tcp, udp } from internal:network to port $udp_services is expanded to pass inet proto udp from 10.0.0.0/24 to any port = 22 pass inet proto udp

Re: PPPoE / isakmpd race

2016-02-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
Is the address in "Listen-on" a static address for this connection? If so, you should be able to use it directly in hostname.pppoe0 instead of 0.0.0.0, and that might well solve this.

Re: bringing degraded softraid online

2016-02-16 Thread Johan Huldtgren
On 2/16/16 10:31, Joel Sing wrote: This is the reason that the volume will not reassemble - two of your chunks have metadata with version 64, while the rest have version 63. As such, only chunks 0 and 1 are considered to be online - all others have old metadata and are marked offline. This most

Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Jorge Luis
It is written in article 'Linux and the GNU System' posted in GNU Operating System: "People sometimes ask whether BSD too is a version of GNU, like GNU/Linux. The BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activist

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Jorge Luis gmail.com> writes: > Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free > software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU > activists helped persuade them? > > If no, what is the true story of BSD developers? http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Yes The great example of Richard Stallman set the University of California Berkeley on their righteous way to make AT&T Unix System V free for all!!! I'm glad this history is finally being discovered and talked about on the OpenBSD mailing lists. It's very important that everyone sees the true

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Richard Thornton
I would read McKusick's book on FreeBSD. He gives a good historical accounting of the BSD's. Also the book Raymond's book "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.   Original Message   From: Jorge Luis Sent: Tuesday, February 16,

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Karel Gardas
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > > It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard Stallman > and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU Hurd. or without which we would not be able to compile our OS? Let's stay honest OpenBSD still dep

Re: Storage server HW advice/feedback req for setup overall & in particular reliability/QoS of SATA, to

2016-02-16 Thread j
Hi, This is to ask you for your thoughts/advice on the best hardware setup for an OpenBSD server. Oh where to start. You have a lot of enthusiasm clearly but not a lot of experience. OK, I'll bite. "best" is subjective. The server(s) will be surrounded by clients (they are servers after a

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 16 11:49:58, erling.westen...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:32:05AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:15:58AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > > There seems to be a difference between an X session > > > initialized by startx(1) and one launched by xdm(1)

jdk-1.8.0 and Eclipse

2016-02-16 Thread Philippe Meunier
Hello, I'm running OpenBSD 5.8-release generic on i386. Has anyone managed to get Eclipse 3.2 (the one from packages) working with jdk-1.8.0 (from packages too)? When I try, I get the following error message: "An error has occurred. See the log file ..." and Eclipse dies. The log file contains

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Karel Gardas [gard...@gmail.com] wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > > > > It's very important that everyone sees the true greatness of Richard > > Stallman and the GNU project, without which, we would not have GNU Hurd. > > or without which we would not be able to

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread David Vasek
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Jorge Luis gmail.com> writes: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them? If no, what is the true story of BSD devel

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law might also be relevant. -- Raul On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:29 PM, David Vasek wrote: > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Alexey Suslikov wrote: > >> Jorge Luis gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free >>>

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Cappuccio
li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > Plan for your use case, and consult the man page and respective source > code on implementation details. And flash storage disks are still > unreliable compared to spinning hard drives. Although I was a long proponent of read-only flash use, I've foun

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:57:38 -0800 Chris Cappuccio > li...@wrant.com [li...@wrant.com] wrote: > > > > Plan for your use case, and consult the man page and respective source > > code on implementation details. And flash storage disks are still > > unreliable compared to spinning hard drives. > >

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread lists
Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:26:54 -0800 Chris Cappuccio > Yes > The great example of Richard Stallman set the University of > California Berkeley on their righteous way to make AT&T Unix System V > free for all!!! A historic example, not related, long time ago chose political career directing lawyers, ad

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-16 Thread Jiri B
XDM fires up /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession, easy to read. One can even customize XDM and all other things in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config. It should be `xrdb -load $file'. j.

how to Bridging with a wireless NIC

2016-02-16 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
hi all , my room has no wired lan cord . my situation is internet | wifi router 192.168.100.254 | |wireless | rum0:dhcpcd openbsd re0 | |wired LAN | video recorder my intension is that video recorder recieves address from wifi router ( ***not from openbsd***) debian linux has https://wiki.d

Re: how to Bridging with a wireless NIC

2016-02-16 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Tuyosi Takesima wrote: > hi all , > > > my room has no wired lan cord . > > my situation is > > internet > | > wifi router > 192.168.100.254 > | > |wireless > | > rum0:dhcpcd > openbsd > re0 > | > |wired LAN > | > video recorder > > my intension is that > video re

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-16 Thread Eric Furman
OS400 people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system. VOS people don't come on this list and discuss their operating system. Hell, even Windows people don't come on this list and discuss their OS. I'm totally confused as to why we constantly get GNU/Linux douche bags on this list

Re: PPPoE / isakmpd race

2016-02-16 Thread Christopher Snell
Yes, the Listen-on is static. Unfortunately, changing the 0.0.0.0 in hostname.pppoe0 breaks PPPoE. I think I could work around this in netstart by simply sleeping until the link comes up (or a pre-defined timer elapses) but I'm struggling to come up with a more generic approach. There might be m

Re: Will Softraid RAID1 read from the fastest mirror/-s / supports user-specified device read priority order, nowadays? Takes broken disk out of use?

2016-02-16 Thread Nick Holland
On 02/15/16 16:02, Karel Gardas wrote: >> ..And therefore you need enterprise disks because they behave "cleanly", as >> when using those only, essentially full softraid QoS is maintained at all >> times. > > Interesting! I've understand Nick excellent email in completely > reversed sense. I unders

Re: how to Bridging with a wireless NIC

2016-02-16 Thread Tuyosi Takesima
i follow your advice . the resul is --- # ifconfig -a lo0: flags=8049 mtu 32768 priority: 0 groups: lo inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 re0: flags=8b43 mtu 1500 llad