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Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread ropers
On 29 July 2012 02:48, Eric Oyen wrote: > the old steel perkiness brailler For the record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Brailler

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
oh yeah. thermoform paper. the problem is that any heat tended to permanently deform it. it did produce some nice sharp braille. I am not material expert but i think it is possible to make thermoform "paper" that could be thermoformed multiple times. once when printing then ironing out. Even i

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
commands. It should probably be an TERM=thumb then in an ideal world.. :)

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
such a device, possibly redesigned in modern way+electronic that would automatically control it and you get braille tty. On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, ropers wrote: On 29 July 2012 02:48, Eric Oyen wrote: the old steel perkiness brailler For the record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Brailler

Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Eric, Eric Oyen wrote on Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 07:57:59AM -0700: > its too bad there is no way to convert back from html. That wouldn't be impossible to write; but it would be an awful lot of work, probably at least two weeks of work for somebody very familiar with the mandoc(1) internals like

Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Anthony J. Bentley wrote on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:15:07PM -0600: > Eric Oyen writes: >> h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting >> it to a text based PDF. that is something to consider. > mandoc supports PDF output as well. > For example, with the following com

Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 07:25:35PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Oyen wrote on Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 07:57:59AM -0700: > > > its too bad there is no way to convert back from html. > > That wouldn't be impossible to write; but it would be an awful > lot of work, probably at leas

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Eric Oyen
ok. considering the design, I had originally thought it was from the late 19th century. my bad!. still, the thing was definitely over engineered. I can't honestly say the same thing about the newer, lighter plastic models. what I find disturbing is this: the newer plastic manual brailler is prone

Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Eric Oyen
well, the simple ASCII text isn't the problem. its the interface over which I am viewing it (ssh using vt200). every time I navigate up or down in a man file, the session redraws the screen and that forces the screen reader to read from the first line or simply read the last line (whichis the "--mo

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I have a BrailleX ELBA-40 here (40 column braille display). unfortunately, it > does not work because of a battery failure. Considering you have found out how cheap the electronics are I expect I cannot help for some undisclosed reason or that it's actually some sort of hard to find power failur

Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

2012-07-29 Thread Rob Payne
On 7/19/12 11:15 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer >> wrote: >>> What do you mean with "ss20"? >> Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the >> Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-range ballistic nucelar mis

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Jack Woehr
Eric Oyen wrote: btw, an actual braille embosser (a monster braille printer) costs about $10K. Hmm, sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity making a cheaper unit. What's the input? Unicode? -- Jack Woehr # "We commonly say we have no time when, Box 51, Golden CO 80402 # o

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Eric Oyen
that I am not sure of. these embossers are used at places like the American Printing House for the Blind. considering how much material is printed in braille monthly, their maintenance is a bit expensive. these are not your small printer for home use. they are industrial sized units that print more

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Re: ss20's wanted for ports builds

2012-07-29 Thread Brian McCafferty
On 07/29/12 16:18, Rob Payne wrote: On 7/19/12 11:15 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:45:30PM +0200, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer wrote: What do you mean with "ss20"? Actually a good question. At least for those old enough to remember the Soviet era SS-20 intermediate-ran

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Jack Woehr
Eric Oyen wrote: 120 pound bond paper is rather hard on the print heads they use (and its the only stuff that will reasonably hold braille). Bond paper is traditional. Haven't they figured out a way to emboss thin sheets of polymer yet? -- Jack Woehr # "We commonly say we have

Re: [www.openbsd.org] Re: man pages with screen reader

2012-07-29 Thread Eric Oyen
they have. however, thermoform paper is actually more expensive than standard paper stock. also, the "thermo" brailler (embosser) isn't cheap either. now, there are small form factor varieties that will work on 3x5 sized sheets. those run about $500 and are good for labeling prescription bottles,