11.10.10, 00:19, "Martin SchrC6der" :
> 2010/10/10 Dmitry-T :
> > load from livecd bsdanywhere46-amd64
>
> Then go to http://bsdanywhere.org/mailinglists and complain there.
My test very simple, please test your system.
Is your original OpenBSD show identical results?
--
Dmitry Telegin
11.10.10, 08:46, "Tomas Bodzar" :
> 6) Did you test it on real OpenBSD, real HW and latest release or snapshot?
I'm search stable and secure OS.
I'm test: my work Mac OS X 10.6.3, FreeBSD 8.1 on livecd
frenzy-1.3-ju-release-rus, my home Linux Debian - renice work more correct.
Why renice algor
Someone else replied offlist which I thought was worth responding
to here,
>On 2010-10-10, Stuart Henderson wrote:
>> On 2010-10-09, Dimitar Vassilev wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I got the following setup
>>> bridge2 gig
>>> switches---home la
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:17:37PM +0400, Dmitry-T wrote:
> My test OpenBSD:
>
> load from livecd bsdanywhere46-amd64
>
> in different consoles:
>
> dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m
> dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m
> dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m
> iostat
> top
>
> run:
> dd if=/dev/
11.10.10, 12:13, "Claudio Jeker" :
> You try to renice I/O bound
> processes. The scheduler priority only matters when processes are CPU
> bound.
Yes of course, but... all my "dd" processes use CPU.
After run "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null"
first three "dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m
2010/10/11 Stuart Henderson :
> Someone else replied offlist which I thought was worth responding
> to here,
>
>>On 2010-10-10, Stuart Henderson wrote:
[snip]
>>> The CPU and chipset are way too slow to handle wire-speed gigabit.
>>> You'll be better off with an Atom, VIA, or probably even a 350MH
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:45:39PM +0400, Dmitry-T wrote:
> 11.10.10, 12:13, "Claudio Jeker" :
>
> > You try to renice I/O bound
> > processes. The scheduler priority only matters when processes are CPU
> > bound.
>
> Yes of course, but... all my "dd" processes use CPU.
> After run "dd if=
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:45:39PM +0400, Dmitry-T wrote:
> 11.10.10, 12:13, "Claudio Jeker" :
>
> > You try to renice I/O bound
> > processes. The scheduler priority only matters when processes are CPU
> > bound.
>
> Yes of course, but... all my "dd" processes use CPU.
> After run "dd if=
2010/10/11, Claudio Jeker :
> CPU consumed by the kernel is not accounted by the scheduler. All the
> work done by urandom is system time.
And for the curious people who can't see the obvious: why is that?
--
Martin Pelikan
11.10.10, 13:57, "Claudio Jeker" :
> > After run "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null"
> > first three "dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m" reduce their part of CPU
> and
> > run "renice" not recover their part of CPU.
>
> CPU consumed by the kernel is not accounted by the scheduler. All the
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:27:45 +0400
Dmitry-T wrote:
> 11.10.10, 08:46, "Tomas Bodzar" :
>
> > 6) Did you test it on real OpenBSD, real HW and latest release or snapshot?
>http://bsdanywhere.org/faq
>" What is the primary focus of BSDanywhere?
>A mostly __unmodified__ OpenBSD kernel and userlan
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:16:19PM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote:
> 2010/10/11, Claudio Jeker :
> > CPU consumed by the kernel is not accounted by the scheduler. All the
> > work done by urandom is system time.
>
> And for the curious people who can't see the obvious: why is that?
>
Because that's
Don't compare OpenBSD and Linux, because OpenBSD and Linux are made
differently. As claudio mentioned nice make sense *only* for CPU tasks,
not IO tasks. So if you don't like it keep using Linux, otherwise you
must live with how OpenBSD is doing things.
On 10/11/2010 6:37 AM, Dmitry-T wrote:
> 11.
10.10.10, 14:51, "Kevin Chadwick" :
> >It is not secure. One script or program may load CPU and
> >database or another servers lost speed in disk operations.
>
> Even if renice did have that affect you need to be root to drop it to
> -20 so why shouldn't root be able to use all resources, r
11.10.10, 22:02, "GP" :
> Don't compare OpenBSD and Linux, because OpenBSD and Linux are made
> differently. As claudio mentioned nice make sense *only* for CPU tasks,
> not IO tasks. So if you don't like it keep using Linux, otherwise you
> must live with how OpenBSD is doing things.
I unders
11.10.10, 15:13, "Claudio Jeker" :
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:16:19PM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote:
> > 2010/10/11, Claudio Jeker :
> > > CPU consumed by the kernel is not accounted by the scheduler. All the
> > > work done by urandom is system time.
> >
> > And for the curious people who c
11.10.10, 13:16, "Bret S. Lambert" :
> > Yes of course, but... all my "dd" processes use CPU.
> > After run "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null"
> > first three "dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m" reduce their part of CPU
> and
> > run "renice" not recover their part of CPU.
>
> numbers o
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Dmitry-T wrote:
> In FreeBSD and Mac OS X run "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null"
> not change read speed from disk...
> Is in OpenBSD lacks developers?
Maybe.
But it doesn't lack moronic whiners on its mailing lists, that's for sure!
-david-
On 10/11/10 02:27, Dmitry-T wrote:
11.10.10, 08:46, "Tomas Bodzar":
6) Did you test it on real OpenBSD, real HW and latest release or snapshot?
I'm search stable and secure OS.
I'm test: my work Mac OS X 10.6.3, FreeBSD 8.1 on livecd
frenzy-1.3-ju-release-rus, my home Linux Debian - renice
Nice event.
Hotel probably ways too expensive, but since I paid for it with my time and
my talks, I didn't care all that much.
Surprisingly, just one NetBSD talk (Alistair Crooks). Where did they hide ?
Do they still think it's a FreeBSD conference masquerading as an open
forum ?
Lots of stuff
Marc Espie writes:
> Nice event.
Yes, definitely. It turned out very nice, with more OpenBSD content
than the last few had, and high quality stuff at that.
This reminds me I forgot to spam misc@ about my own conference report,
it's up at
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2010/10/eurobsdcon-2010-fines
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:54:19AM +, Mikle Krutov wrote:
> Hello, list!
> I'm a FreeBSD user (a very little experience with openbsd in the past),
> but i'm kind of interested in any bsd flavour (i like *nix, but dislike
> linux for some reasons).
> So, the question is if there is any positiv
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:34:22 +0400
Dmitry-T wrote:
> 11.10.10, 15:13, "Claudio Jeker" :
>
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:16:19PM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote:
> > > 2010/10/11, Claudio Jeker :
> > > > CPU consumed by the kernel is not accounted by the scheduler. All the
> > > > work done by ur
Read again and again Claudio's responses until you really understand.
The key is there.
--
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remai
> "Dmitry-T" == Dmitry-T writes:
Dmitry-T> Is in OpenBSD lacks developers?
That might as well be the last message you post here.
Any little help you would get, you've just offended them.
--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
http://www.stonehenge
Dmitry-T> Is in OpenBSD lacks developers?
That might as well be the last message you post here.
Any little help you would get, you've just offended them.
reading his e-mails, I don't think he is trying to be offensive, I think
his English is just poor
thank you
11.10.10, 23:43, "GP" :
> As far as I know this is not possible.
>
> On 10/11/2010 7:24 AM, Dmitry-T wrote:
> > 11.10.10, 22:02, "GP" :
> >
> >> Don't compare OpenBSD and Linux, because OpenBSD and Linux are made
> >> differently. As claudio mentioned nice make sense *only* for
11.10.10, 19:29, "Randal L. Schwartz" :
> > "Dmitry-T" == Dmitry-T writes:
>
> Dmitry-T> Is in OpenBSD lacks developers?
>
> That might as well be the last message you post here.
>
> Any little help you would get, you've just offended them.
I did not want to offend. Maybe the reaso
11.10.10, 19:35, "Michal" :
> > Dmitry-T> Is in OpenBSD lacks developers?
> >
> > That might as well be the last message you post here.
> >
> > Any little help you would get, you've just offended them.
> >
> reading his e-mails, I don't think he is trying to be offensive, I think
> his En
Am 11.10.10 15:57, schrieb Peter N. M. Hansteen:
Marc Espie writes:
Nice event.
Yes, definitely. It turned out very nice, with more OpenBSD content
than the last few had, and high quality stuff at that.
Indeed. Very nice weekend. And thanks to Peter for a very useful pf
tutorial.
Also
I'm trying to get a working OBSD virtual machine with networking
working as a DomU in a xen server but keep coming up again network
Watchdog Timeout errors. So I spent today trying to get PCI pass-though
working with Xen and OBSD with the belief that if I could get some
network cards into the
* Marc Espie [2010-10-11 15:25]:
> Nice event.
yup.
> Hotel probably ways too expensive, but since I paid for it with my time and
> my talks, I didn't care all that much.
it is actually in the same league as usual.
> Surprisingly, just one NetBSD talk (Alistair Crooks). Where did they hide ?
I'm install OpenBSD 4.7 (dmesg attached)
uname -a
OpenBSD d1.my.domain 4.7 GENERIC#112 amd64
Run as root:
dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m &
dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m &
dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m &
top
load averages: 3.12, 2.50, 1.4916:54:08
37 processes: 36 idle, 1 o
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Dmitry-T wrote:
> Run as _normal user_:
> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null
> It is not secure. One user script or program may load CPU and
> database or another servers lost speed in disk operations.
> This is hole for DOS attacks in OpenBSD design.
>
> How you use
2010/10/11 Dmitry-T :
> How you use the OpenBSD as web servers and hosting platform?
RTFAQ
> Permanently catch and kill processes?
man ulimit
Best
Martin
12.10.10, 00:54, "Ted Unangst" :
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Dmitry-T wrote:
> > Run as _normal user_:
> > dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null
>
> > It is not secure. One user script or program may load CPU and
> > database or another servers lost speed in disk operations.
> > This is h
* Dmitry-T [2010-10-11 22:45]:
> How you use the OpenBSD as web servers and hosting platform?
> Permanently catch and kill processes?
you have repeatedly demonstrated that you plain don't understand
a) UNIX
b) the numbers you see
c) the fact that a computer has more ressources than a freakin' CPU
On 11/10/2010 23:12, Dmitry-T wrote:
> 12.10.10, 00:54, "Ted Unangst" :
>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Dmitry-T wrote:
>> > Run as _normal user_:
>> > dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null
>>
>> > It is not secure. One user script or program may load CPU and
>> > database or another server
12.10.10, 00:59, "Martin SchrC6der" :
> 2010/10/11 Dmitry-T :
> > How you use the OpenBSD as web servers and hosting platform?
>
> RTFAQ
I'm search "hosting" in FAQ and find only
14.18 - Optimizing disk performance
> > Permanently catch and kill processes?
>
> man ulimit
It is not a p
12.10.10, 01:22, "Firas Kraiem" :
> You're the naive one. If a user can DOS the system just by doing dd, it
> means the system's policy is very weak, so the user can probably just as
> well throw a forkbomb.
dd only example.
Look around: Linux, Mac OS X, FreeBSD... why defend a design error?
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:09:58AM +0400, Dmitry-T wrote:
> 12.10.10, 01:22, "Firas Kraiem" :
>
> > You're the naive one. If a user can DOS the system just by doing dd, it
> > means the system's policy is very weak, so the user can probably just as
> > well throw a forkbomb.
>
> dd only exampl
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 06:34:20PM +, Mikle Krutov wrote:
> 1) I've bought Acer Aspire One 531 as recommended. Everything works OK.
> (except for Yota)
Not only for yota after some time of actual using:
netbook warms up fast as hell even after apm -L
zzz (& apm -S & apm -z) does not suspend i
On 10/11/2010 04:59 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2010/10/11 Dmitry-T :
>> How you use the OpenBSD as web servers and hosting platform?
>
> RTFAQ
>
>> Permanently catch and kill processes?
>
> man ulimit
What do you see when you man ulimit?
> Best
>Martin
On 11 October 2010 23:49, Brad Tilley wrote:
> On 10/11/2010 04:59 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
>> 2010/10/11 Dmitry-T :
>>> How you use the OpenBSD as web servers and hosting platform?
>>
>> RTFAQ
>>
>>> Permanently catch and kill processes?
>>
>> man ulimit
>
> What do you see when you man ulimit?
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Mikle Krutov wrote:
> Not only for yota after some time of actual using:
> netbook warms up fast as hell even after apm -L
> zzz (& apm -S & apm -z) does not suspend it
> At least, out of box.
> Dmitry, do you have the same problems?
No. Mine is generally always o
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Mikle Krutov wrote:
> Not only for yota after some time of actual using:
> netbook warms up fast as hell even after apm -L
> zzz (& apm -S & apm -z) does not suspend it
> At least, out of box.
> Dmitry, do you have the same problems?
No temperature issues. My avar
First of all people don't use NVIDIA crap for hosting platform (or any
other use). Or at least they try to avoid it as much as possible. As
you can see in your dmesg you have quite a lot of unsupported parts of
HW (or badly working/set).
It's fault of other OSs' that NVIDIA plays game about "avail
Para mayores informes responda con sus datos completos o bien siga el
link
a continuacisn y llene el formulario anexo para recibir un folleto con
detalles del evento
Congress & Marketing | Capacitacisn por Mixico - Newsletter
Congreso Nacional iMex Internet Marketing Experts
Descargue
Congreso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi,
I'm trying to write a simple script which can grab the ip address of
current active interface.
e.g
iwn0 -> 10.7.22.23/24 , route 10.7.22.254
em0 -> 192.168.133.2/24 , route 192.168.133.1 ( active ,
> But is there any better ways to work it out ?
you could get the ip of the interface that the default route is
going through:
route -n get default | grep 'if address' | sed 's/.*: //'
or ask ifconfig what is in the egress group and assume the first ip
on the first interface will be ok
50 matches
Mail list logo
