Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-23 Thread Clint Pachl
Ted Unangst wrote: On 7/19/08, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - svnd backed by a whole slice on disk I know some people have done this, but the code doesn't like it. I'd stick with normal files. I have done file, partition, and whole disk; each one gets progressively s

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Damien Miller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Aaron Stellman wrote: > Now, on boot, the softraid0 doesn't attach itself to sd0n, perhaps not > implemented yet? I was wondering if there were any plans to create > support for crypto devices so that they could be mounted on boot as > specified in fstab(5). Yes, but someone

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:22:24PM -0700, Aaron Stellman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:58:11AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > This might be a good time to try my giant softraid diff that makes > > crypto useful. > > > Hello Marco, > > Greatly appreciate your work on softraid(4). I've dec

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Aaron Stellman
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:58:11AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: > This might be a good time to try my giant softraid diff that makes > crypto useful. > Hello Marco, Greatly appreciate your work on softraid(4). I've decided to play around with Crypto discipline w/ softraid, created 60GB partition

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Ted Unangst
On 7/20/08, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wrong. if you write just one sector at the end, yes, you'll create a > sparse file. "dd if=/dev/zero of=image.bin bs=64k" will actually write > to each and every one of those sectors. until you cp or tar it. :)

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Ted Unangst
On 7/20/08, Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Afaik there are (can be?) collisions in images bigger than ~40GB because > of blowfishs block size. Right. Unfortunately, the only online reference I could find indicating the significance of this is wikipedia's talk (!) page for birthday att

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... In contrast, an >initially-zeroed imagefile would be sparse, with most blocks not >actually allocated, so I'd need the freespace reserve to make >imagefile block allocation reasonably fast & vaguely-con

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
I'd like to publicly thank all those who are contributing to this thread -- the discussion is very informative. I suggested initially creating the imagefile with [5] # dd if=/dev/arandom bs=1m of=/mnt/imagefile count=... Several people have commented on this from the perspective of cryptographic

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-20 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:44:04AM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > On 7/19/08, Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [4] # mount -o softdep /dev/sd0a /mnt > > > [5] # dd if=/dev/arandom bs=1m of=/mnt/imagefile count=... > > > > > > prepare to wait a few days... there is known plaintext at spe

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On 7/19/08, Tobias Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [4] # mount -o softdep /dev/sd0a /mnt > > [5] # dd if=/dev/arandom bs=1m of=/mnt/imagefile count=... > > > prepare to wait a few days... there is known plaintext at specific > locations anyway, disklabel, filesystem metadata,... very littl

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On 7/19/08, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - svnd backed by a whole slice on disk I know some people have done this, but the code doesn't like it. I'd stick with normal files.

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:04:44PM +0100, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > My laptop (Thinkpad T41p) and I are going to be doing a lot of > travelling in the next year, so I'm investigating how to > (cryptographically) improve my security in case of loss/theft/seizure. > Right now I use cfs (ports) for

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Chris Kuethe
If you have some time and a spare disk, why not experiment with the 3 or 4 options available to you before settling on one. - cfs - svnd backed by a file in a filesystem - svnd backed by a whole slice on disk - softraid w/ crypto softraid w/ crypto is still kind of a work in progress, but it's ver

Re: svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Marco Peereboom
This might be a good time to try my giant softraid diff that makes crypto useful. On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:04:44PM +0100, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > My laptop (Thinkpad T41p) and I are going to be doing a lot of > travelling in the next year, so I'm investigating how to > (cryptographically) im

svnd questions (encrypting all of a partition or disk)

2008-07-19 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
My laptop (Thinkpad T41p) and I are going to be doing a lot of travelling in the next year, so I'm investigating how to (cryptographically) improve my security in case of loss/theft/seizure. Right now I use cfs (ports) for a few "sensitive" subdirectories, but 95+% of my /home is still cleartext to