Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-17 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 17.03.2010 at 16:24:42 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: > -A, -O, -R are bullshit and I'll happily remove them. soon. that's ok with me. I thought that changing the docs was the less-intrusive thing to do, and I have no experience with ipf, so that certainly wasn't on my mind. TIA! --

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-17 Thread Henning Brauer
* Toni Mueller [2010-03-15 10:52]: > I've just run into the following problem on a 4.6 box: > > /etc/pf.conf (excerpt): > > > table const { 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 } > block out on $extif from > > > # /sbin/pfctl -F rules -R -f pf.co

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-17 Thread Henning Brauer
* Toni Mueller [2010-03-15 12:59]: > Not using "-R" is not too good, either, as on this particular box, > reloading everything results in a severance of all existing > connections. I don't believe you. pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf doesn't do that. ok, shouldn't, but I don't see where that could break.

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/16 Toni Mueller > Hi, > > On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 07:37:42 +0001, Jason McIntyre > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > > An optimizer (or any other such device) which is on by default and > > > claims to not change semantics, should imho be transpare

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 07:37:42 +0001, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > An optimizer (or any other such device) which is on by default and > > claims to not change semantics, should imho be transparent to the user, > > but this one isn't

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 13:04:04 +, Jason McIntyre > wrote: > > doesn;t "Other rules and options are ignored." already cover this? > > may be. But then, you are possibly only too deeply entrenched in this > stuff to "see"

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 13:04:04 +, Jason McIntyre wrote: > doesn;t "Other rules and options are ignored." already cover this? may be. But then, you are possibly only too deeply entrenched in this stuff to "see" the problem. > furthermore, since -T has a load command, should we really exp

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/15 Toni Mueller > > Hi, > > On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 12:22:35 +0100, matteo filippetto < > matteo.filippe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > for me it works good ... just don't use -R option > > > > http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/4/6/147502 > > thanks for this link. > > Not using "

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:54:09PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Not using "-R" is not too good, either, as on this particular box, > reloading everything results in a severance of all existing > connections. A clarification in the docs is imho the way to go. My > 'nroff' is almost nonexistant, b

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 12:22:35 +0100, matteo filippetto wrote: > for me it works good ... just don't use -R option > > http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/4/6/147502 thanks for this link. Not using "-R" is not too good, either, as on this particular box, reloading everythi

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/15 Toni Mueller > Hi, > > I've just run into the following problem on a 4.6 box: > > /etc/pf.conf (excerpt): > > > table const { 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 } > block out on $extif from > > > # /sbin/pfctl -F rules -R -f pf.conf > r

pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-15 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I've just run into the following problem on a 4.6 box: /etc/pf.conf (excerpt): table const { 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 } block out on $extif from # /sbin/pfctl -F rules -R -f pf.conf rules cleared pfctl: Must enable table loading f