[OT] Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-14 Thread hellsop
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:16:10PM +0700, Neta wrote: > If your conclusion is right. Why so many internet banking used it? > Do you have any real experiences with your box? They can get their insurers to cover what they've tested. They've no incentive to test more browsers to check that they do th

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread blahz0rz
Just a side note here... the bank I am currently using (UMB... United Missouri Bank).. I am able to use links and lynx (from the console, and links -g) to access my online bank. The only thing required from both browsers of course is SSL enabled. I live in the midwest, so this bank fits my needs (w

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Neta
You just show everyone who really you are > My conclusion was that you were a lazy prick. It is correct, proven by > your reply: > You asked for related papers. You got a pointer. You are a useless > troll now. Actually i wanted to know about your expertise about java but you point me _nothing_

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2005-07-13 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
--- Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:18:20AM -0700, Vladislav > Belogrudov wrote: > >[...] > > >I agree, almost each banking site has it > >(Citi, Deutsche Bank,...) > > Postbank (Germany) works with lynx, pure https and > forms. > Though the

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:16:10 +0700, Neta wrote: >On 7/13/05, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:40 +0700, Neta wrote: >> >> >Just curious! >> >Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? >> >> Just curious! >> Could you show me

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:18:20AM -0700, Vladislav Belogrudov wrote: >[...] >I agree, almost each banking site has it >(Citi, Deutsche Bank,...) Postbank (Germany) works with lynx, pure https and forms. Though they depend on the browser identification, with other browsers they require

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Neta
> So, you propose relying on the idea that the skills of the malicious > people are less than the people looking for vulnerabilities? That used > to be true, but now...we are seeing professionals making money using > vulnerabilities. I think this is a foolish, very foolish, idea to > continue to

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Nick Holland
Bernd Schoeller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:16:10PM +0700, Neta wrote: >> If your conclusion is right. Why so many internet banking used it? >> Do you have any real experiences with your box? > > Since 9/11, we all should know the difference between an 'abstract > threat' and a 'concrete t

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Bernd Schoeller
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:16:10PM +0700, Neta wrote: > If your conclusion is right. Why so many internet banking used it? > Do you have any real experiences with your box? Since 9/11, we all should know the difference between an 'abstract threat' and a 'concrete threat'. JavaScript is an extremel

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Neta
> you probably confuse JavaScript with Java. Java's sandbox model is much > more consistent than JavaScript's security policies are. For example, > have a look at the actual meaning of JavaScript's "same origin policy" > and you'll see that JavaScript has inherent security problems that can't > be

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
--- Neta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/13/05, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:40 +0700, Neta wrote: > > > > >Just curious! > > >Could you show me some related paper that java > script completely insecure? > > > > Just curious! > > Could you show me

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Andreas Bartelt
Hi, Neta wrote: ... If your conclusion is right. Why so many internet banking used it? Do you have any real experiences with your box? you probably confuse JavaScript with Java. Java's sandbox model is much more consistent than JavaScript's security policies are. For example, have a look at

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 13 July 2005 16:16 +0700, Neta wrote: If your conclusion is right. Why so many internet banking used it? Probably for the same reason loads of them only work with Internet Explorer - they (mostly) don't care. Some are better though (e.g. smile in .uk - I don't know whether it's by accid

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-13 Thread Neta
On 7/13/05, Rod.. Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:40 +0700, Neta wrote: > > >Just curious! > >Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? > > Just curious! > Could you show me how Google did not supply you with an answer? > 166000 hi

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:27:40 +0700, Neta wrote: >Just curious! >Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? Just curious! Could you show me how Google did not supply you with an answer? 166000 hits 40400 if Internet Explorer excluded. Lazy boy! >From the land "dow

Re: links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Neta
Just curious! Could you show me some related paper that java script completely insecure? On 7/12/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You said java script and secure in the same sentence.. hee hee. > > Banks don't give a shit about security. their sites are full > of garbage

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2005-07-12 Thread Bob Beck
You said java script and secure in the same sentence.. hee hee. Banks don't give a shit about security. their sites are full of garbage that make you run crap like that. You'll probably have to use firefox or internet exploder to use their on-line banking. hold your nose and smile.

links vs firefox vs ..

2005-07-12 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
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