Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-11 Thread Sherwood Botsford
I don't have a nice thing to say about compaq. They were odd, drivers were hard to find, they would deliberately do things to force propriatary solutions: E.g. In the '486 days they would use a different pin-out on their simms. Compaq memory wouldn't work in anything else. Non-compaq memory

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Steve Shockley
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Did you have any trouble getting the software for setting up the scsi raid card? IIRC the 1850 didn't come with a built-in RAID card, a period-correct card would probably be a SA 3200, which I think has built-in setup firmware (press F8 during boot). I think the softw

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
I hear you. Doug. On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:39:09PM -0500, bofh wrote: > Dude, > > I used to have a stack of proliants, and I agree with Nick. Prolaint > bios was... Special. > > If you really want a low power cpu, get one of those c7 cpus, put it > in an aluminium case, and you don't have t

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread bofh
Dude, I used to have a stack of proliants, and I agree with Nick. Prolaint bios was... Special. If you really want a low power cpu, get one of those c7 cpus, put it in an aluminium case, and you don't have to worry about all those issues that nick and others brought up. If you're worried about

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 03:03:31PM -0800, Lord Sporkton wrote: > All i can say is that i have a 1850R and a 5000, both of which run > wonderfully so far with OpenBSD, the 1850 is duel pII 450 and the 5000 > is quad pII 400, havent had a single problem so far. Did you have any trouble getting the s

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 11:23:32PM +0100, ropers wrote: > On 08/02/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, > > I suppose that some things internally would be on the EISA bus (e.g. > > keyboard, floppy drive). > > Huh? The FDC and PS/2 ports are on the EISA bus? > My only e

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Lord Sporkton
All i can say is that i have a 1850R and a 5000, both of which run wonderfully so far with OpenBSD, the 1850 is duel pII 450 and the 5000 is quad pII 400, havent had a single problem so far. however that price tag is way out of range, i bought both of mine for 90. On 08/02/2008, Douglas A. Tutty

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread ropers
On 08/02/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again. > > In my search for low-MHz machines, at least on eBay, I find lots of old > Compaq Proliants (all around the $300 mark by the way). E.g: > > 4500R: P-133, 1 GB ram, no drives, $249. Ok, so I've been thinking... I

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread ropers
On 08/02/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, > I suppose that some things internally would be on the EISA bus (e.g. > keyboard, floppy drive). Huh? The FDC and PS/2 ports are on the EISA bus? --ropers

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Steve Shockley
Nick Holland wrote: Old cac's have some kind of battery on them, they look like large lithium cells. They don't really look like rechargeable. Even if they are, they are so old, they are probably dead on yours (and mine). That may be why my cac(4) experience was so uninspiring, or it may just

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:24:14PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > I've warned you about a lot of them, you ignored that, but for some reason > I feel obligated to try one more time. I just hate to see people do things > like this to themselves (and I want to be able to say, "No, not interested > i

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-07 Thread Nick Holland
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Hello again. > > In my search for low-MHz machines, at least on eBay, I find lots of old > Compaq Proliants (all around the $300 mark by the way). E.g: > > 4500R: P-133, 1 GB ram, no drives, $249. > > HP doesn't have on their website the owner's manuals for these

Re: gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-07 Thread Jason Dixon
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Hello again. In my search for low-MHz machines, at least on eBay, I find lots of old Compaq Proliants (all around the $300 mark by the way). E.g: 4500R: P-133, 1 GB ram, no drives, $249. HP doesn't have on their website the owner

gotchas for old Proliants

2008-02-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello again. In my search for low-MHz machines, at least on eBay, I find lots of old Compaq Proliants (all around the $300 mark by the way). E.g: 4500R: P-133, 1 GB ram, no drives, $249. HP doesn't have on their website the owner's manuals for these old boxes, but they do have the servi