Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 01:51:48PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > On 1 July 2017 at 18:55, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > >> On 1 July 2017 at 12:06, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > >> wrote: > >> > >> > The USB disks and

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Donald Allen
On 2 July 2017 at 14:02, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On 2 July 2017 at 13:54, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> >> This is not helpful. You insist that you know what is going on when I >> >> was in front of the computer and you were not. File copying to an ext2 >> >> filesystem on a usb drive is 10x slower tha

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On 2 July 2017 at 13:54, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >> This is not helpful. You insist that you know what is going on when I > >> was in front of the computer and you were not. File copying to an ext2 > >> filesystem on a usb drive is 10x slower than to an ffs filesystem on > >> an internal sata dri

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Donald Allen
On 2 July 2017 at 13:54, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> This is not helpful. You insist that you know what is going on when I >> was in front of the computer and you were not. File copying to an ext2 >> filesystem on a usb drive is 10x slower than to an ffs filesystem on >> an internal sata drive mounted

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
> This is not helpful. You insist that you know what is going on when I > was in front of the computer and you were not. File copying to an ext2 > filesystem on a usb drive is 10x slower than to an ffs filesystem on > an internal sata drive mounted async (ext2 is async; apples to > apples). I know

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-02 Thread Donald Allen
On 1 July 2017 at 18:55, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: >> On 1 July 2017 at 12:06, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado >> wrote: >> >> > The USB disks and ext2 are both quite slow on OpenBSD. Try with FFS but >> > you're not going

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-01 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > On 1 July 2017 at 12:06, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > > > The USB disks and ext2 are both quite slow on OpenBSD. Try with FFS but > > you're not going to see better numbers. > > > > On Linux, the kernel uses UAS for your

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-01 Thread Ted Unangst
Donald Allen wrote: > I am guessing, but do not know, that the trouble here is either in the > ext2 support or perhaps in the usb driver. If ext2, I realize that it It wouldn't surprise me that the USB stack can get wedged if it does lots of IO. ext2fs probably has other bugs, but I wouldn't expec

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-01 Thread Donald Allen
On 1 July 2017 at 12:06, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > The USB disks and ext2 are both quite slow on OpenBSD. Try with FFS but > you're not going to see better numbers. > > On Linux, the kernel uses UAS for your USB disks. We only supports > bulk-only. If you are implying that if I had

Re: ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-01 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 09:23:02AM -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > I have three Toshiba 1TB USB drives that I use for backups and > archives of my various systems. These disks pre-date my predominant > use of OpenBSD, and have ext2 file-systems. One of the disks is the > primary, to which new backups

ext2 or usb problem

2017-07-01 Thread Donald Allen
I have three Toshiba 1TB USB drives that I use for backups and archives of my various systems. These disks pre-date my predominant use of OpenBSD, and have ext2 file-systems. One of the disks is the primary, to which new backups and archives are written. Another is the secondary. When the primary c