Please stop.
Yes, the US government has a long history of abusing its Constitutional
powers. That's why we must all hide all of our personal data from
them as much as possible.
Of course Google, Bing, Facebook and all those selfies we take
are excepted.
BWAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH morons!
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013,
Op Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:01:13 +0200 schreef Scott McEachern
:
On 10/08/13 16:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
Back in the pre-WW2 days, Belgium (or was it the Netherlands? I
forget.) kept detailed census and medical data on their citizens,
including their religious affiliation. It was useful data
Please stop
--
There are people so addicted to exaggeration
that they can't tell the truth without lying.
-- Josh Billings
John Long writes:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:41:07PM +0100, sbienddr...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Am I being monitored for receiving these emails?
>
> No, you're being monitored for using google, stupid.
Please follow Peter's advice:
>On 10/09/13 12:18, Peter Hessler wrote:
>> This has gotten
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:41:07PM +0100, sbienddr...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Am I being monitored for receiving these emails?
No, you're being monitored for using google, stupid.
Did anybody consider the possibility Theo didn't start this thread? The
email headers looked ok at a quick glance but
Am I being monitored for receiving these emails?
On 10/09/13 12:18, Peter Hessler wrote:
This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end here?
You're right! I am outa here! Bye!
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Peter Hessler wrote:
> This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end
> here?
It might come as a shock for you all.
But we don't give a flying fuck for what you guys think about X where
X is not related to OpenBSD.
Try #ihavetheurgetoexpressmyfeeelings in irc.disney.com
This has gotten massively off topic. Can we please let the thread end here?
I am not stupid & midwestern enough to believe that all Muslims are a
terrorist threat. My son is half jewish and I am not even reflexively
pro-israel. I find that when I enter a church or a temple, its a bit
of mental torture; over the weekend I was at a bat mitzvah and believe
me, it was tortu
On 10/09/13 05:08, Zé Loff wrote:
(Quite) a few years ago, the Dutch government wanted to make sure everyone had a proper burial,
according to each one's beliefs and rituals. So they asked people to state their religious
beliefs. This is a good idea right? Everyone's wishes get respected even
On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:44 AM, Benjamin Heath
wrote:
> But, people have given up this information. They weren't even paid or
> coerced. Why so naive?
(Quite) a few years ago, the Dutch government wanted to make sure everyone had
a proper burial, according to each one's beliefs and rituals. So the
On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Scott McEachern wrote:
> On 10/08/13 17:38, Richard Thornton wrote:
>> I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter,
>> but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
>> real and we need to be able to stop them anyway
On Oct 8, 2013 8:21 PM, "Scott McEachern" wrote:
>
> On 10/08/13 22:44, Benjamin Heath wrote:
>> But that's just it, isn't it? People are naive. They go to public schools
>> where they are taught to accept what is popular and reject all else, and
>> that's where much of it starts. Computers must r
On 10/08/13 22:44, Benjamin Heath wrote:
Adding to your previous thoughts, it became clear to me some years ago that
the best way to gather information on someone is to find information which
they've volunteered.
The US Army, namely D/arpa and the Navy, invented the Internet and onion
routing.
Adding to your previous thoughts, it became clear to me some years ago that
the best way to gather information on someone is to find information which
they've volunteered.
Facebook and other social networks have a space to select your religion,
sexual identity, location, school, work, and contact
On 10/08/13 22:35, Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:
My favourite O/S is also OpenBSD. Theo and his guys protect the world. so
they are naturally protected.
Almost, but not quite.
Theo actually has a devoted core of followers around the globe, highly
trained in gung-fu, krav maga, and ninjitsu. The
The NSA is just a backdrop against the real corruption, which guys like
Sen. Ted Cruz, who intentionally manipulate the markets by threatening to
default on USA debt. Only an idiot would not assume these Senators are
selling their stocks before this stupid debate, drive the markets down,
buy on th
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Scott McEachern wrote:
> On 10/08/13 20:42, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And
>> any chance I get I promote it.
>>
>
> Excellent, and I applaud you for that.
>
>
My favourite O/S is also
On 10/08/13 20:42, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And
any chance I get I promote it.
Excellent, and I applaud you for that.
You should take a look at the papers/presentations the devs have given.
The stuff Theo wrote on
, been a bit busy
On 10/08/13 17:38, Richard Thornton wrote:
> I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter,
> but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
> real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary.
>
> All it takes
On 10/06/13 20:48, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
Now, why do I mention this in relation to OpenBSD? Well, at the end
of 2007 someone decided to open an impersonation account on twitter in
my name, and start sending a mix of things I have said (see wikiquote
for instance), with things that I wou
On 10/08/13 17:38, Richard Thornton wrote:
I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter,
but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary.
All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart i
Martin Schr?der [mar...@oneiros.de] wrote:
> 2013/10/8 Kyle R W Milz :
> > I guess if the NSA has coerced with CSIS or whatever the Canadian
> > equivalent is then there might be cause for worry there (quite likely as
> > we parrot almost everything the US does).
>
> YYCIX is subject to canadian l
> The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
> real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary.
>
> All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart in the neighborhood,
> buy every pay-as-you-go phone they have, then pass them out to their
> friends in every Mosque.
Well fuck you and your
ThorntonCc:
Scott McEachern; misc@openbsd.orgSubject: Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been
a bit busy
> The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
> real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary.
>
> All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart in the neighborhood,
> buy every pay-
On 10/08/13 16:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
As I say I am far more concerned about 'modern' incompetent ISP's.
Uncaring ISPs or ISP's that can only care about profit (and so
advertising) or they are out of business and tasking them (perhaps to
their delight) with layer 7 filtering which requires gr
I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter,
but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is
real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary.
All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart in the neighborhood,
buy every pay-as-you-go p
On 10/08/13 16:36, Martin Schröder wrote:
YYCIX is subject to canadian laws.
It likely must have a lawful interception interface for the canadian
police/whatever.
Americans are subject to the highest law of the land: The US
Constitution. You know, that document the President and damned near
> Food for thought for everyone, but like I said, he doesn't care and
> won't think about it.
As I say I am far more concerned about 'modern' incompetent ISP's.
Uncaring ISPs or ISP's that can only care about profit (and so
advertising) or they are out of business and tasking them (perhaps to
the
2013/10/8 Kyle R W Milz :
> I guess if the NSA has coerced with CSIS or whatever the Canadian
> equivalent is then there might be cause for worry there (quite likely as
> we parrot almost everything the US does).
YYCIX is subject to canadian laws.
It likely must have a lawful interception interfac
On 10/08/13 10:33, Kyle R W Milz wrote:
Now here is where things get interesting, from the data centre to my
home:
[...]
Take a look at the 5th and 6th hops, they are in the US. The data
goes from Calgary to Vancouver down into the US to Seattle and then all
the way back to Calgary.
So long wi
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:20:32AM -0400, Scott McEachern wrote:
> I didn't want to bring this up before, but it might be an
> interesting discussion, even though off-topic. Feel free to ignore
> this part of the thread.
>
> After reading Theo's post, I wondered what effect an IX had on what
> we
On 10/08/13 07:20, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
So has your internet access (ISP) improved too since a while back or
just locally and what resistance did you encounter - pro surveillance?
The UK broadband speeds have shot up and become more of an asset but
they are also becoming far more of a liabilit
> Why? With a group of others, I started setting up an Internet
> Exchange in Calgary, and this has taken much time because it is highly
> politicized and has encountered some resistance.
So has your internet access (ISP) improved too since a while back or
just locally and what resistance did you
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, James Griffin wrote:
> [...] But when people don't listen, or continuosly repeat themselves
> unnecessarily, the discussion digresses and becomes irrelevent and/or
> annoying for those of us subscribed to the list. That's the point I
> tried to make. Anyway, this is digressi
> Yes, let the people spend their time and energy for nothing. It's
> absolutely not interesting to spend yours on this, It's a kid game. I
> appraciate much more the work you do all on awsome project like OpenBSD
> and YYCIX :)
>
>
>
I also agree with you. This is a useless topic. Let's discard
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:48 PM, wrote:
> Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it strange posting to misc,
> starting an email thread. Normally I finish the threads here.
>
> Most OpenBSD developers have known for a while, but I think it is
> important to tell the greater community that I've been a
Thank you both for answering my question.
On 10/7/13, Scott McEachern wrote:
> On 10/07/13 21:57, noah pugsley wrote:
>> Slander aside, pretty cool news. I do have one stupid question though,
>> what does the 'yy' in yycix stand for?
>
> YYC is the International Air Transport Association airport
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:57 PM, noah pugsley wrote:
> Slander aside, pretty cool news. I do have one stupid question though,
> what does the 'yy' in yycix stand for?
>
> On 10/6/13, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
> > Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it strange posting to misc,
> > starting an
On 10/07/13 21:57, noah pugsley wrote:
Slander aside, pretty cool news. I do have one stupid question though,
what does the 'yy' in yycix stand for?
YYC is the International Air Transport Association airport code for the
Calgary International Airport. Eg. YYZ is Toronto's Pearson airport,
Lo
On 07/10/13 9:57 PM, noah pugsley wrote:
Slander aside, pretty cool news. I do have one stupid question though,
what does the 'yy' in yycix stand for?
It is not YY it is YYC. It is an airport code.
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Slander aside, pretty cool news. I do have one stupid question though,
what does the 'yy' in yycix stand for?
On 10/6/13, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
> Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it strange posting to misc,
> starting an email thread. Normally I finish the threads here.
>
> Most OpenB
well,
Twitter does have its useful purposes. There is plenty of information on there
of a technical nature. The major problem is just filtering out all the noise.
Unfortunately, the idiots know about twitter and try to use it to their
advantage. SOmetimes that works, and other times it backfires
Le 2013-10-07 12:30, Marko CupaÄ a écrit :
> I don't see a reason why Twitter is given that much attention. It surely
> gets a lot of hype from all around, but I did not excpect it will get more
> from OpenBSD mailing lists.
Yes, let the people spend their time and energy for nothing. It's
abs
I don't see a reason why Twitter is given that much attention. It surely
gets a lot of hype from all around, but I did not excpect it will get more
from OpenBSD mailing lists.
--
Marko Cupać
I am glad to know that it is a "parody" account;
You can easily go to court, in order to force Twitter to give up the names
& contact info of those responsible for the parody account if you would
like to sue, but then any off-color public remarks you have actually made
could be turned against you.
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:10:36AM +0200, mxb wrote:
> I'd turn this to police
> [...]
That might however generate a Streisand effect, where the slanderous
statements are spread even more.
> and tried to make Twitter to shut down this account.
Since it's marked as a parody account, I don't think
* InterNetX - Robert Garrett [2013-10-07
11:04:56 +0200]:
> People who attack each, other with nothing but the defamation of the
> other individual, at heart are idiots. Sometimes, in the course of
> normal discussions.. things get out of hand, I really dont care
> about this. I prefer people to
I'd turn this to police
and tried to make Twitter to shut down this account.
On 7 okt 2013, at 02:48, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
> Well, at the end
> of 2007 someone decided to open an impersonation account on twitter in
> my name, and start sending a mix of things I have said (see wikiquote
People who attack each, other with nothing but the defamation of the
other individual, at heart are idiots. Sometimes, in the course of
normal discussions.. things get out of hand, I really dont care about
this. I prefer people to attack ideas, not each other.
RG
On 10/07/2013 10:43 AM, Jame
* hru...@gmail.com [2013-10-07 08:36:04 +]:
> dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
> >
> > Layers of hurt being thrown around. Why?
>
> This is a legitim question.
>
> Since I am here, I think I received twice an Email from you: I
> remember you as a polite person. But I did read a little of w
dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
>
> Layers of hurt being thrown around. Why?
This is a legitim question.
Since I am here, I think I received twice an Email from you: I
remember you as a polite person. But I did read a little of what
people write about you arround.
Some weeks ago a question of
Then again, I would find that rather offensive, given what he is saying on the
header:
Since the OBSD people are basically fucking dumber than a single sack of hammers
THIS IS A PARODY ACCOUNT.
On 10/07/2013 03:48 AM, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it stran
Because people, are idiots, and like to attack others who do useful
things. Keep your head up.
RG
On 10/07/2013 02:48 AM, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it strange posting to misc,
starting an email thread. Normally I finish the threads here.
Most OpenBSD d
Hi, yeah, it is really me. I find it strange posting to misc,
starting an email thread. Normally I finish the threads here.
Most OpenBSD developers have known for a while, but I think it is
important to tell the greater community that I've been a bit busy for
about the last year. I have not bee
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