Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-09 Thread Didi
http://www.jnode.org/ has been around for a while and if you search sf.net for "+java +operating +system" http://sourceforge.net/search/?words=%2Bjava+%2Bos&type_of_search=soft&pmode=0&words=%2Bjava+%2Boperating+%2Bsystem&Search=Search you get 86 results. So the C# version was bound to follow. A

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-08 Thread Die Gestalt
> Are you sure you used the STL? > > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/kernel/KMcode.mspx > > Read the section about "Libraries": > > "Although much of the Standard Template Library is implemented as source > code in headers, it occasionally uses library functions or other > features that

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mike Larkin
Die Gestalt wrote: > I wrote several drivers in Windows NT using C++/STL/Boost and they had > excellent performances and reliability. > > Are you sure you used the STL? http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/kernel/KMcode.mspx Read the section about "Libraries": "Although much of the Standard T

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
"Vikas N Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a kernel being written in Lisp called Movitz ( > http://common-lisp.net/project/movitz/) and there was one in Python > as well that I saw a few years ago but I forget the name (it started > with U...) Unununium.org -- Jonathan

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Gilles Chehade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mayuresh Kathe a icrit : > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very > >> > limited when it comes to

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Vikas N Kumar
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steve Shockley < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > > What's next? an OS in java and php? > > Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails. > No, the OS should be

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Gilles Chehade
Mayuresh Kathe a icrit : > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very >> > limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. >> >> What's next? an OS in java and php? >> > > Marc

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread bofh
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco Peereboom wrote: > > What's next? an OS in java and php? > > Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails. No, the OS should be written in silverlight. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://w

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very > > limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. > > What's next? an OS in java and php? Marco, it would be better for you if you make infor

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Steve Shockley
Marco Peereboom wrote: What's next? an OS in java and php? Are you living in 2001? It should be in Ruby on Rails.

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
Can't wait to see it's incredible success at being an OS. Ever wondered why your cell phone OS sucks? On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 09:37:13AM -0600, Erik Harmon wrote: > What's next? an OS in java and php? > >There's been a Java OS in development for a while. > >http://www.jnod

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 06:56:24AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > > Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although > > I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). > > Love the marketing lingo "mana

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread 代表 Erik Harmon
> What's next? an OS in java and php? There's been a Java OS in development for a while. http://www.jnode.org/ Erik

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 03:06:26PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > Sorry my answer was perhaps a bit aggressive. I tend to get a bit... > unsettled as I hear very often "C++ is crap and a nonsense in the > kernel" from people who never seriously studied the language. I have studied it and used it on

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
Sorry my answer was perhaps a bit aggressive. I tend to get a bit... unsettled as I hear very often "C++ is crap and a nonsense in the kernel" from people who never seriously studied the language. I wrote several drivers in Windows NT using C++/STL/Boost and they had excellent performances and re

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's > abilities when discussing technical matters. > > If you have a point to make, please proceed. You state an opinion without backing it up by referring to either existing

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Tony Abernethy
Perpetual motion machines? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Die Gestalt > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 6:16 AM > To: Otto Moerbeek > Cc: misc > Subject: Re: Singularity OS > > I don't think it is rel

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although > I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). Love the marketing lingo "managed code". I am sure we can move some boxes with that term. > > However

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
Point is that C++ is retarded. On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's > abilities when discussing technical matters. > > If you have a point to make, please proceed. > > > Have you ever been involved in OS des

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
I don't think it is relevant or even polite to question one's abilities when discussing technical matters. If you have a point to make, please proceed. > Have you ever been involved in OS design and implementation? And I do > not mean academic exercises, but a real world project producing actu

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:19:03PM +0100, Die Gestalt wrote: > Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although > I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). > > However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very > limited when it comes to generic

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-07 Thread Die Gestalt
Having a kernel with managed code is not necessarily idiotic (although I think in most cases smart pointers do the job better). However having chosen C# is in my opinion not optimal. C# is very limited when it comes to generic and meta-programming. I think "modern-styled" C++ (ie template intensi

Re: Singularity OS (O/T Trolling)

2008-03-06 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:27:49 +, Andris wrote: >I wonder if anyone actually took a look to the code before opening >his/her mouth. > >Note that I don't trust Microsoft either, but giving that Singularity >is not planned to be a successor to Windows, but a research >experiment, makes me think it

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Andrés
I wonder if anyone actually took a look to the code before opening his/her mouth. Note that I don't trust Microsoft either, but giving that Singularity is not planned to be a successor to Windows, but a research experiment, makes me think it _can_ be good.

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Vikas N Kumar
The OS is written in Managed code and designed by managers :) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Henry Sieff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "The OS is coded in an extension of C# - rather than more simple C or > C++ - to avoid the flaws of today's operating systems, such as their > susceptibility

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread 代表 Erik Harmon
Thank God someone is writing an OS with dependability and security in mind. Erik On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Adrian Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello chaps :) > > I just saw this on the net about a new OS from M$ called Singularity. > What > do you think of it thus far? > > > http:

Re: Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Henry Sieff
"The OS is coded in an extension of C# - rather than more simple C or C++ - to avoid the flaws of today's operating systems, such as their susceptibility to buffer overruns from worms or viruses." Hahahahahahahahahaha! I needed that laugh. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Adrian Fisher <[EMA

Singularity OS

2008-03-06 Thread Adrian Fisher
Hello chaps :) I just saw this on the net about a new OS from M$ called Singularity. What do you think of it thus far? http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/174267/microsoft-releases-robust-new-operating-system.html