Re: traffic management

2010-06-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* Theo de Raadt [2010-06-02 17:18]: > Where's the diffs? exactly. talk is cheap. I do see some ways to make altq in OpenBSD better & easier. pf would still be the major entry point of course. irix ramblings are completely useless and if they have any effect at all they lower my motivation to wo

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Wed, June 2, 2010 13:37, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> > Hello Misc, >> > >> > Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. >> Who would want this? This was the main reason for me to switch my >> routers to OpenBSD. (consistency, ease of configuring) >> I didn't want to fiddle w

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread SJP Lists
2010/6/3 irix : > Hello Misc, > > Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. > > -- > Best regards, > irix mailto:i...@ukr.net Nobody here is stopping you from using Linux.

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > Hello Misc, > > > > Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. > Who would want this? This was the main reason for me to switch my > routers to OpenBSD. (consistency, ease of configuring) > I didn't want to fiddle with iptables and tc, search in outdated > tc documenta

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Andreas Mueller
irix wrote: > Hello Misc, > > Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. Who would want this? This was the main reason for me to switch my routers to OpenBSD. (consistency, ease of configuring) I didn't want to fiddle with iptables and tc, search in outdated tc documentati

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Andres Genovez
2010/6/2 Janne Johansson : > 2010/6/2 irix > >> Hello Misc, >> >> All of a sudden started talking about some fixes. Have I mentioned >> somewhere that something needs to be corrected, >> or that something is not working? I just said about remaking to simplify >> the code. >> > > You said: "Or r

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Janne Johansson
2010/6/2 irix > Hello Misc, > > All of a sudden started talking about some fixes. Have I mentioned > somewhere that something needs to be corrected, > or that something is not working? I just said about remaking to simplify > the code. > You said: "Or replace altq to something else, more fast

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. It is not going to happen.

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread irix
Hello Misc, Ideally this control altq the similarity in the tc tool in Linux. -- Best regards, irix mailto:i...@ukr.net

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
> All of a sudden started talking about some fixes. Have I mentioned > somewhere that something needs to be corrected, >or that something is not working? I just said about remaking to simplify > the code. > Alternatives queue was initially conceived as framework in which you can > with mi

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread irix
Hello Misc, All of a sudden started talking about some fixes. Have I mentioned somewhere that something needs to be corrected, or that something is not working? I just said about remaking to simplify the code. Alternatives queue was initially conceived as framework in which you can with m

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread SJP Lists
2010/6/2 irix : > Hello Misc, > > But at least you can say why? > >>no kidding. As we've told "irix" before, it will not happen. > > -- > Best regards, > irix mailto:i...@ukr.net Because it makes my VoIP phones at home and a friends workplace go from hit-and-miss to...

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Francesco Vollero
Gregory Edigarov ha scritto: On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 03:37:35 +0300 irix wrote: Hello Misc, But at least you can say why? Obvious: don't fix what's not broken. Gregory, its an hard concept to get by most of the people :) no kidding. As we've told "irix" before, it will not happe

Re: traffic management

2010-06-02 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 03:37:35 +0300 irix wrote: > Hello Misc, > > But at least you can say why? Obvious: don't fix what's not broken. > > >no kidding. As we've told "irix" before, it will not happen. > -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread Tony Abernethy
Why? (There, I said it.) -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of irix Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:38 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: traffic management Hello Misc, But at least you can say why? >no kidding. As we'

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread bofh
Isn't the onus on the one asking for change to list why it should be changed, and to contribute the code to show why your approach is superior, since Theo has apparently told you before it ain't happening? On 6/1/10, irix wrote: > Hello Misc, > > But at least you can say why? > >>no kidding. As

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread irix
Hello Misc, But at least you can say why? >no kidding. As we've told "irix" before, it will not happen. -- Best regards, irix mailto:i...@ukr.net

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread James Peltier
Ouch. I like IRIX. ex-SGI employee 43951. :) --- James A. Peltier james_a_pelt...@yahoo.ca - Original Message > From: Theo de Raadt > To: Jan Stary > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 2:40:37 PM > Subject: Re: traffic management > > > &g

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > Hello Misc, > > > > Are there any plans have changed in the system of traffic control? > > For example removal of code altq from pf and make a separate management > > interface traffic other than pf. > > Or replace altq to something else, more fast, > > simple and functional. Or revision of a

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread Jan Stary
On Jun 01 20:21:16, irix wrote: > Hello Misc, > > Are there any plans have changed in the system of traffic control? > For example removal of code altq from pf and make a separate management > interface traffic other than pf. > Or replace altq to something else, more fast, > simple and functional

Re: traffic management

2010-06-01 Thread Insan Praja SW
Hi, On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:21:16 +0700, irix wrote: Hello Misc, Are there any plans have changed in the system of traffic control? For example removal of code altq from pf and make a separate management interface traffic other than pf. Or replace altq to something else, more fast, simple an