Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-18 Thread Andy Lemin
I think he did answer your question, if you read between the lines.. A session cannot be 'pushed' to max! It needs to demand the bandwidth in the first place. Try reading this; http://trash.net/~kaber/hfsc/SIGCOM97.pdf This along side /many/ other Internet pages allowed us to fully implement and

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-18 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Henning, Friday, October 18, 2013, 5:37:23 AM, you wrote: >> I extensively use cbq and very confused by the current queuing manual. It >> seems that actual speed will be somewhere between "min" and "max" (and wont >> be equal to "bandwidth"), but how to get an idea where? HB> bandwidth i

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Boris Goldberg [2013-10-17 15:59]: > You probably need to mention that the new queuing is using hfsc model and > what hfsc model is. I don't think anyone should have to care what algorithm is being used under the hood. > I extensively use cbq and very confused by the current queuing manual

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Johan Beisser [2013-10-16 21:09]: > Right. I guess if I want to define multiple queues for matching > traffic, I need to either redo the filter rules to use tagging*, or > simply do it per outbound bit of traffic. let's make that outright clear: defining queues is for bandwidth shaping only. th

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-17 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It might be a good idea to return the altq section to the pf.conf man > page for current. No. It would be better to remove the support now. Documenting the past and the future together never works. The old stuff is going away and does not need documenting.

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-17 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Otto, Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 10:05:04 AM, you wrote: OM> This will not be in 5.4, it wil be in 5.5. If you see shortcomings in OM> the docs explain in more detail. It might be a good idea to return the altq section to the pf.conf man page for current. You probably need to mention

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Johan Beisser
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Norman Golisz wrote: > On Wed Oct 16 2013 08:54, Johan Beisser wrote: >> Or cam I still just do very basic priority queueing in 5.5? > > See pf.conf(5), 'set prio'. This doesn't even require you to define > queues, etc. Right. I guess if I want to define multiple

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Norman Golisz
On Wed Oct 16 2013 08:54, Johan Beisser wrote: > Or cam I still just do very basic priority queueing in 5.5? See pf.conf(5), 'set prio'. This doesn't even require you to define queues, etc.

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Boris Goldberg writes: > The changes in the pf queueing subsystem (for some reason not mentioned > in the http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade54.html) are getting me worried. The new queueing system was only committed on October 12th 2013, well after 5.4 was cut and sent off to the CD printers. But

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Johan Beisser
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:05, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > This will not be in 5.4, it wil be in 5.5. If you see shortcomings in > the docs explain in more detail. I just read the QUEUEING section in the man page. Seems fairly clear to me, and in some ways more clear. One thing I'd like to see is a sug

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 09:08:55AM -0500, Boris Goldberg wrote: > Hello misc, > > The changes in the pf queueing subsystem (for some reason not mentioned > in the http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade54.html) are getting me worried. > Couldn't find the word "altq" in the > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Janne Johansson
2013/10/16 Boris Goldberg > Is the old queueing gone? Is existing pf.conf not going to work with 5.4? > > > The new queueing doesn't appear until 5.5, so 5.4 will most certainly work without you doing anything related to your pf.conf. -- May the most significant bit of your life be positive.

Re: new queueing subsystem

2013-10-16 Thread Aaron
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Boris Goldberg wrote: > Hello misc, > > The changes in the pf queueing subsystem (for some reason not mentioned > in the http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade54.html) are getting me worried. > Couldn't find the word "altq" in the > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.c