2011/2/2 Ted Unangst :
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
>> 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
>>> who sez that your made up isp has to hand out network-wide unique IPs
>>> to his customers?
>>
>> AFAIK Comcast already has >2^24 customers.
>
> And they seem to be doing just fine. W
On 02/06/11 21:16, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2011/2/6 VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO :
>> No, that's _CHINA_ (people). Or Russia (size).
>
> You think the VR china is a democracy?
I only saw "republic" being mentioned. Not democracy.
RACIST! ;)
On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:16 +0100, "Martin Schrvder"
wrote:
> 2011/2/6 VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO :
> > No, that's _CHINA_ (people). Or Russia (size).
>
> You think the VR china is a democracy?
2011/2/6 VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO :
> No, that's _CHINA_ (people). Or Russia (size).
You think the VR china is a democracy?
> No, that's India (people). Or Russia (size).
>
No, that's _CHINA_ (people). Or Russia (size).
:P
* Martin Schrvder (mar...@oneiros.de) wrote:
> Carrier grade NAT is less bullshit than ipv6. :-)
Arbor networks just released their new 'Worldwide Infrastructure Report' which
was interesting. In particular the rising threat of DDOS and the use of
statefull network gear in mobile networks, such as
* Joakim Aronius (joa...@aronius.com) wrote:
>
> ..dont want to fuel a flame war here but i heard stuff like AT&T is using 40
> instances of 10/8 indicates that big operators needs to bend themselves
> backwards to get their stuff together.
Need to correct myself there, should be Verizon Wirel
2011/2/4 Joakim Aronius :
> ..dont want to fuel a flame war here but i heard stuff like AT&T is using 40
> instances of 10/8 indicates that big operators needs to bend themselves
> backwards to get their stuff together.
Carrier grade NAT is less bullshit than ipv6. :-)
El 04/02/2011 16:15, Martin Schrvder escribis:
2011/2/4 Bret Lambert:
The US has been "offering" "freedom" to the world for a while now.
It's only the largest republic in the world :-)
No, that's India (people). Or Russia (size).
Best
Martin
Still US (money). Take your pick.
2011/2/4 Bret Lambert :
> The US has been "offering" "freedom" to the world for a while now.
> It's only the largest republic in the world :-)
No, that's India (people). Or Russia (size).
Best
Martin
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2011/2/4 Pete Vickers :
>> He don't appear to 'have' IPv6...
>
> DTAG will offer v6 to all it's customers later this year.
> It's only the largest telco in Germany. :-)
The US has been "offering" "freedom" to the world for a while now.
It's
* Ted Unangst (ted.unan...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> > 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> >> who sez that your made up isp has to hand out network-wide unique IPs
> >> to his customers?
> >
> > AFAIK Comcast already has >2^24 customers.
>
> And they se
2011/2/4 Pete Vickers :
> He don't appear to 'have' IPv6...
DTAG will offer v6 to all it's customers later this year.
It's only the largest telco in Germany. :-)
Best
Martin
On 3. feb. 2011, at 17.37, Bret S. Lambert wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 07:31:01AM -0800, Johan Beisser wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:17, Martin SchrC6der wrote:
>>
>>> 2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
Counting my toaster?
>>>
>>> Your toaster has an IP?
>>>
>>
>> Yours doesn't?
>>
>
> He'
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:58:23 +0100
Bret Lambert wrote:
> Counting my toaster?
Dilemma
3G toaster - maybe wastes a valuable ipv4
wifi toaster and x other devices - maybe waste's me with radiation (if
it's microwave band wifi (water resonater))
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 07:31:01AM -0800, Johan Beisser wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:17, Martin SchrC6der wrote:
>
> > 2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
> >> Counting my toaster?
> >
> > Your toaster has an IP?
> >
>
> Yours doesn't?
>
He's got IPv6! His *cockroaches' toasters* have IPs!
On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:17, Martin SchrC6der wrote:
> 2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
>> Counting my toaster?
>
> Your toaster has an IP?
>
Yours doesn't?
2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
> yes, and can be viewed at http://www.goldentoasting.com/
Probably a v6 device hosted by Henning.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
>> Counting my toaster?
>
> Your toaster has an IP?
yes, and can be viewed at http://www.goldentoasting.com/
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
> A question to a wireless ISP sysadmin, isn't it easy to use NAT with
> cellphone web traffic since they have unique number?
I'm not a wireless ISP sysadmin but when my cell phone comes off radio
and goes wireless I find blocked packets in my
2011/2/3 Bret Lambert :
> Counting my toaster?
Your toaster has an IP?
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2011/2/2 Bret S. Lambert :
>> On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:23:43PM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote:
>>> Yeah. And there'll never be more than 2^32 IP devices in the world.
>>
>> Inorite? I mean, if I can't get an IP for my toaster, I'm just gonn
> Currently there are about 2^32.7 living humans; I expect to live long
> enough to see 2^33.3
> Imagine everyone having at least two devices. How many do you have?
There's a depression coming along. Many would be glad just to have a
job and food. I don't use any such toys, and probably many will
2011/2/2 Bret S. Lambert :
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:23:43PM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote:
>> Yeah. And there'll never be more than 2^32 IP devices in the world.
>
> Inorite? I mean, if I can't get an IP for my toaster, I'm just gonna *die*!
Currently there are about 2^32.7 living humans; I exp
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:23:43PM +0100, Martin Schr?der wrote:
> 2011/2/2 Kevin Chadwick :
> > Also, If you look at the GeoIP lookup data you'll see great swathes were
> > allocated early on and seemingly never actually used.
>
> Yeah. And there'll never be more than 2^32 IP devices in the world
You are probably on the right track.
AFAIK, most Indian ISP's have city or state level blocks of IPs. Ultra
big cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore itself has several blocks. So
theoretically they could NAT the same IP in different cities or
different blocks at the same time, and none the wiser.
2011/2/2 Kevin Chadwick :
> Also, If you look at the GeoIP lookup data you'll see great swathes were
> allocated early on and seemingly never actually used.
Yeah. And there'll never be more than 2^32 IP devices in the world.
Best
Martin
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:53:35 -0600
patric conant wrote:
> 2^24=16,777.216
> So they are close.
I read, the same ips are being used by ISPS in different parts of the
world with a kind of global nat.
Also, If you look at the GeoIP lookup data you'll see great swathes were
allocated early on and se
Comcast has 15.930 million high-speed internet customers.
According to the wikipedia article.
2^24=16,777.216
So they are close.
How about the smartphone market, are they largely being natted?
Or are we likely to see a doubling of the need for IP addresses in the next
couple of years, as non-smar
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
>> who sez that your made up isp has to hand out network-wide unique IPs
>> to his customers?
>
> AFAIK Comcast already has >2^24 customers.
And they seem to be doing just fine. What's the problem again?
* Martin Schrvder [2011-02-02 18:35]:
> 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> > who sez that your made up isp has to hand out network-wide unique IPs
> > to his customers?
> AFAIK Comcast already has >2^24 customers.
> Any major chinese or indian ISP has or will have >2^24 customers.
> Heck, even DTAG will
There would be more ip adresses if some greedy companies didn't
take a lot of addresses for themselves...
2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> who sez that your made up isp has to hand out network-wide unique IPs
> to his customers?
AFAIK Comcast already has >2^24 customers.
Any major chinese or indian ISP has or will have >2^24 customers.
Heck, even DTAG will probably have >2^24 devices in their network soon.
* Martin Schrvder [2011-02-02 16:45]:
> 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> > * Martin Schrvder [2011-02-02 15:06]:
> >> Unless you are an ISP with more than 2^24 customers.
> > you are talking bullshit. there is oh so much v4 space allocated that
> Currently an ISP with more then 2^24 customers can't NA
2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> * Martin Schrvder [2011-02-02 15:06]:
>> Unless you are an ISP with more than 2^24 customers.
>
> you are talking bullshit. there is oh so much v4 space allocated that
Currently an ISP with more then 2^24 customers can't NAT them all
(as 10/8 has only 2^24 addresses) o
* Martin Schrvder [2011-02-02 15:06]:
> 2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> > there is no ipv4 shortage. there is a a reclaiming issue.
> Unless you are an ISP with more than 2^24 customers.
you are talking bullshit. there is oh so much v4 space allocated that
isn't used. and gobs of space that was alloc
2011/2/2 Henning Brauer :
> there is no ipv4 shortage. there is a a reclaiming issue.
Unless you are an ISP with more than 2^24 customers.
> all hail ipv4/64, while at it.
Comcast will disagree. :-)
Best
Martin
* Ted Unangst [2011-02-02 01:52]:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> > So what will you tell your customers 2012 when you can't get ipv4 for them?
> The same thing he told them in 2008.
exactly. "i have enough ipv4 for a long while".
there is no ipv4 shortage. there is a
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
> So what will you tell your customers 2012 when you can't get ipv4 for them?
The same thing he told them in 2008.
2011/2/1 Henning Brauer :
> * Josh Smith [2011-02-01 13:31]:
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Henning Brauer wrote:
>> > * Joel Wiramu Pauling [2011-02-01 01:40]:
>> >> The better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway
>> > getting ipvshit is never a better option.
>> Why the negativity surro
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 02:38:18PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
| * Josh Smith [2011-02-01 13:31]:
| > On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Henning Brauer wrote:
| > > * Joel Wiramu Pauling [2011-02-01 01:40]:
| > >> The better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway
| > > getting ipvshit is never a
* Josh Smith [2011-02-01 13:31]:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Henning Brauer wrote:
> > * Joel Wiramu Pauling [2011-02-01 01:40]:
> >> The better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway
> > getting ipvshit is never a better option.
> Why the negativity surrounding ipv6?
use your google fu,
On Tuesday, February 1, 2011, Henning Brauer wrote:
> * Joel Wiramu Pauling [2011-02-01 01:40]:
>> The better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway
>
> getting ipvshit is never a better option.
>
Henning,
Why the negativity surrounding ipv6?
Thanks,
--
Josh
--
Josh Smith
KD8HRX
email/j
On 2011-01-31, Josh Smith wrote:
> misc@,
>
> I recently acquired a playstation 3 and have been running into some
> difficulties playing it online behing my openbsd gateway. After doing
> some research and testing I have been able to overcome most of these
> problems by appending the static-port
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Josh Smith wrote:
> misc@,
>
> I recently acquired a playstation 3 and have been running into some
> difficulties playing it online behing my openbsd gateway. After doing
> some research and testing I have been able to overcome most of these
> problems by appending
* Joel Wiramu Pauling [2011-02-01 01:40]:
> The better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway
getting ipvshit is never a better option.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Serv
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
> Does the PS3 support ipv6? Are Sony's servers IPv6 compliant. The
> better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway (either by
> terminating a tunnel broker pipe and advertising RA from your openbsd
> box) or better still switching to
Does the PS3 support ipv6? Are Sony's servers IPv6 compliant. The
better option is to acquire IPv6 transit someway (either by
terminating a tunnel broker pipe and advertising RA from your openbsd
box) or better still switching to an ISP that support native v6
service.
Kind regards
-JoelW
On 1 Fe
the alternative is UPnP, which you'd need a supporting daemon to add port
mappings into pf to support with an obsd gateway
Josh Smith [juice...@gmail.com] wrote:
> misc@,
>
> I recently acquired a playstation 3 and have been running into some
> difficulties playing it online behing my openbsd ga
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