Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-28 Thread Zeb Packard
What's happening right now is OBSD-misc is doing in 6 months what RH and MS do in ten years. Questions like this are like hitting the stop button on a production line :D Peter N.M. Hansteen is keen to answer questions like this. https://www.facebook.com/groups/openbsd.newbies/ There's a regular

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-28 Thread Patrick Harper
Distros like RHEL have longer release cycles because the industry they service demands them. The fact that the kernel project maintains releases as far back as 2012 only re-enforces the business. There's no need for 'puffangelism' on this subject as OBSD is by no means alone in six-month releas

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-27 Thread Consus
On 14:46 Tue 27 Mar, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > CentOS 5 is EOL since March 31st 2017 ;) > CentOS 6 should be on extended support now which is going EOL in > November 2020. Yep. And Centos7 will be around until 2024. So 4/5 of Linux distros in production (e.g. Alpine is different in this regard)

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-27 Thread Niels Kobschaetzki
On 03/27/2018 02:14 PM, Consus wrote: > On 22:31 Mon 26 Mar, Z Ero wrote: >> I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on >> newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think >> people who are excessively interested in bleeding edge features more >> want an

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-27 Thread Consus
On 22:31 Mon 26 Mar, Z Ero wrote: > I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on > newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think > people who are excessively interested in bleeding edge features more > want an OS for tinkering with than an OS for produc

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018/03/26 22:31, Z Ero wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Stuart Henderson > wrote: > > On 2018-03-25, Z Ero wrote: > >> Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > >> computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > >> OpenBSD why would you r

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Philip Guenther
To answer your original question: yes, 6.3 is almost here. We've been running this schedule of twice a year releases for *decades*, so you as a fan of stable OpenBSD releases should be familiar with the time frames by now, no? On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Z Ero wrote: > I just don't want Op

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Theo de Raadt
Your specification and requirements are so clear. But this isn't a pony shop. Who cares what you want? Really, noone. > I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on > newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think > people who are excessively interes

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Z Ero
I just don't want OpenBSD to turn into Linux where the fixation is on newest shiny thing rather than doing code right. Sometimes I think people who are excessively interested in bleeding edge features more want an OS for tinkering with than an OS for production / work. I want something stable to us

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-03-25, Z Ero wrote: > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable > release? Just curious. - easy access to newer packages, at the

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-25 Thread lists
Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:21:59 + Mike Burns > On 2018-03-25 01.49.52 -0500, Z Ero wrote: > > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-25 Thread Mike Burns
On 2018-03-25 01.49.52 -0500, Z Ero wrote: > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable > release? Just curious. In additon to the good-wi

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-25 Thread Ryan Mason
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 06:49:52AM +, Z Ero wrote: > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable > release? Just curious. > To assist t

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-25 Thread Mark Carroll
On 25 Mar 2018, Z. Ero wrote: > Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your > computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging > OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable > release? Just curious. It's good to run a snapshot at least

Re: Why are so many people running and writing about current snapshots

2018-03-25 Thread Philipp Buehler
Am 25.03.2018 08:49 schrieb Z Ero: Is 6.3 release almost here? Is that why? If you are using your computer for production and are not actively developing / debugging OpenBSD why would you run a current snapshot rather than the stable release? Just curious. Because with a "myriad" of snapshot te