Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-27 Thread Andreas Bihlmaier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:30:08PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > AndrC)s Delfino wrote: > > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, > > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? > > SHOUL

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-27 Thread Eric Johnson
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:43:35 -0500 Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Holland wrote: > > ...much bigger, if we get the 1G physical disk limit overcome in > > OpenBSD). > > er... 1T physical disk limit... > > (hey, some of us old timers were really wowed by the first 1G drives. > Or

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-27 Thread Nick Holland
Nick Holland wrote: > ...much bigger, if we get the 1G physical disk limit overcome in > OpenBSD). er... 1T physical disk limit... (hey, some of us old timers were really wowed by the first 1G drives. Or the first 20M drives... We get our staggering amount of storage units confused easily. :)

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-26 Thread Nick Holland
AndrC)s Delfino wrote: > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? SHOULD you power down uncleanly? No. Can you? Usually. :) I would even go as

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-26 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:44:28AM -0300, Andr??s Delfino wrote: > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? > > Good luck > > As others have an

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-26 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:44:28AM -0300, Andris Delfino wrote: > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? As pointed out, no, but you might get

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-26 Thread Andreas Kahari
On 26/01/06, Andris Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the power off button)? > No. There quite a few things that might be g

Re: Safety of a shutdown when no user could log in

2006-01-26 Thread Lukasz Sztachanski
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:44:28AM -0300, Andris Delfino wrote: > What I'm trying to ask is this: if a user turns on the computer, and > can't log in, is it safe to power off the computer without using halt, there are always `logged in' users( i.e. daemon users) ;) > or shutdown, (ie. pressing the