Re: Safe development

2005-05-23 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: Simon Slater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:43 PM > To: Will H. Backman; misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Safe development > > Luckily, restoring is not something i've had to do too > often so I don&#x

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Stephan Wehner
The manual pages of dump(8) in my FreeBSD 5.3 system mention that it works with a snapshot (mksnap_ffs(8)) if asked to dump a live filesystem. OpenBSD doesn't seem to have snapshots as such... So is dump safe to use when the system changes during its operation??? Anyway, I'm pretty happy about t

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Simon Slater
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > Simon Slater > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:09 PM > > To: Stephan Wehner > > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > > Subject: Re: Safe development > > > > Using cvs to back up the system is going to be > very > > inefficie

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Will H. Backman
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Simon Slater > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:09 PM > To: Stephan Wehner > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Safe development > > Using cvs to back up the system is goi

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Simon Slater
Using cvs to back up the system is going to be very inefficient, especially with binary files. I'd suggest going with your idea of a system snapshot before any major system changes. A straightforward dump(8) and restore(8) is easy to set up and your backed up data can also be restored just by booti

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
On Friday 20 May 2005 03:59 am, Stephan Wehner wrote: What am I trying to back up? What happened to me was I was running Mepis, and did an apt-get xfce4 (I think it was xfcr4). But then startx wouldn't work any longer. I thought apt-get would be pretty safe... Then I switched to FreeBSD and afte

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
subversion it then... binary diffs are there :) --- Timothy Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 20 May 2005 03:59 am, Stephan Wehner > wrote: > > What am I trying to back up? > > > > What happened to me was I was running Mepis, and > did an apt-get xfce4 > > (I think it was xfcr4). But

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Andy Hayward
On 5/20/05, Stephan Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is recommended for bare-metal backups? Never underestimate the power of dump(8) and restore(8). -- ach

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Ray
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:56:34PM -0700, Stephan Wehner wrote: > What is recommended for bare-metal backups? Scenario: I build a new > application, but something breaks and I want to revert back. I thought > a neat way would be to have the whole system under version control. > Can it be done relia

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Timothy Donahue
On Friday 20 May 2005 03:59 am, Stephan Wehner wrote: > What am I trying to back up? > > What happened to me was I was running Mepis, and did an apt-get xfce4 > (I think it was xfcr4). But then startx wouldn't work any longer. I > thought apt-get would be pretty safe... > Then I switched to FreeBSD

Re: Safe development

2005-05-20 Thread Stephan Wehner
What am I trying to back up? What happened to me was I was running Mepis, and did an apt-get xfce4 (I think it was xfcr4). But then startx wouldn't work any longer. I thought apt-get would be pretty safe... Then I switched to FreeBSD and after a port-upgrade installed the new version of firefox. T

Re: Safe development

2005-05-19 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 5/19/05, Stephan Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is recommended for bare-metal backups? Scenario: I build a new > application, but something breaks and I want to revert back. I thought > a neat way would be to have the whole system under version control. > Can it be done reliably with o