Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:03:45 +0100 Henning Brauer wrote: > whoever claims v6 would be any good has never written network code > dealing with it. > > hey, compare these two which do the same, one for v4 and one for v6: > > > don't get me started on the 160bit addresses (128 + 32 scope ID) whic

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Garry Dolley [2009-03-21 20:32]: >> > > If everyone continues to avoid IPv6, then it will remain less than >> > > useful. I understand IPv6 has less than 1% uptake at the moment, but I >> > > don't understand why employing it (in addition

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread Henning Brauer
* Garry Dolley [2009-03-21 20:32]: > > > If everyone continues to avoid IPv6, then it will remain less than > > > useful. I understand IPv6 has less than 1% uptake at the moment, but I > > > don't understand why employing it (in addition to IPv4 NATing hacks) is > > > "about the least smart" thing

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread Garry Dolley
> > If everyone continues to avoid IPv6, then it will remain less than > > useful. I understand IPv6 has less than 1% uptake at the moment, but I > > don't understand why employing it (in addition to IPv4 NATing hacks) is > > "about the least smart" thing an ISP could do? > > > > Is it a cost issu

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread Henning Brauer
* J.C. Roberts [2009-03-21 09:54]: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0100 Henning Brauer > wrote: > > > * J.C. Roberts [2009-03-10 02:03]: > > > The "smart" answer for an ISP is moving to IPv6 > > > > that is about the least smart thing anybody could do. > If everyone continues to avoid IPv6, th

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-21 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0100 Henning Brauer wrote: > * J.C. Roberts [2009-03-10 02:03]: > > The "smart" answer for an ISP is moving to IPv6 > > that is about the least smart thing anybody could do. Hi Henning, If everyone continues to avoid IPv6, then it will remain less than useful. I

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-20 Thread Bryan Irvine
Is your external IP on DHCP? I doubt it's pf that's changing. -Bryan On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > Hi all, > > I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange > behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of > functioning normally,

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-20 Thread Henning Brauer
* J.C. Roberts [2009-03-09 10:06]: > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: > > > I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange > > behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of > > functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default r

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-20 Thread Henning Brauer
* J.C. Roberts [2009-03-10 02:03]: > The "smart" answer for an ISP is moving to IPv6 that is about the least smart thing anybody could do. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Serv

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-12 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 07:06:10PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >[...] >ext_if = "sk0" >int_if = "sk1" >set skip on lo >set block-policy return >scrub in >nat log on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_if) >block log >pass out quick from $int_if to $int_if:network >pass out quick

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-03-12, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >> That netmask would give you the range 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 on >> your external interface, and hence, overlapping your internal network. > > The netmask is 192.168.1.255 so I should be okay there. that's an invalid netmask. do you mean 255.255.255.0

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-11 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
It happened again... 2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > As for whether or not the assigned IP address you get from your ISP via > DHCP will become a problem really depends on the netmask and default > route they give you along with the IP. > > If your internal network is 192.168.151.* > And your ISP gives

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:06:10 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > 2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:07:51 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga > > wrote: > > > >> 2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > > > > I doubt your ISP only has 254 customers, so they are most likely > > using more than just the stated 192.168.

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:07:51 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: > >> 2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : >> > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some >> >> strange behaviour. After several hours

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:07:51 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > 2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga > > wrote: > > > >> I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some > >> strange behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) > >> o

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
>Ah, different semantics. :-) By "default rules" I mean whatever pf >does *without* an /etc/pf.conf. Probably something like "block all". Without any rules, pf does not block anything. come on.. stop making assumptions.

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Remco
Dag Richards wrote: >> In sort my first guess is your IP is changing every 24 hours or so due >> to your service provider using dynamic addressing (and trying to >> prevent you from having a particular IP for too long). If I'm right, >> then your problem is that pf is holding on to the old rules f

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/3/9 J.C. Roberts : > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: > >> I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange >> behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of >> functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default rules which means

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Mike Erdely
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:10:00AM -0700, Dag Richards wrote: > Interesting, that is brings up a question for me... what do we do in > this case? My ISP seems to be content to give the same ip back over and > over again. If they did not is there something I can do besides monitor > my $ext_

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread Dag Richards
On 3/9/09 2:05 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default rules which

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-09 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:01:57 -0700 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange > behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of > functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default rules which means > that from that point on all t

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-08 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/3/8 Jason Dixon : > On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 04:01:57PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange >> behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of >> functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default r

Re: PF Seems To Reload Its Default Rules Unexpectedly

2009-03-08 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 04:01:57PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > Hi all, > > I have pf running on my firewall box and I'm experiencing some strange > behaviour. After several hours (this may even be 24 hours) of > functioning normally, pf seems to reload its default rules which means > that from