Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-25 Thread Steven Surdock
It depends. http://kerneltrap.org/node/5607 gives part of the answer... -Steve S. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Karsten McMinn > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:39 PM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: OpenBSD

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-25 Thread Karsten McMinn
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Matthew Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably not. I've never had problems with carp's fallover time and > I've never used a Cisco firewall so I don't really know how it > actually compares. I just wanted to suggest a maybe-solution assuming > the suppos

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* Matthew Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-11 18:14]: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > fwB's slave carp interfaces notice the "watchdev" going down and > > go to master. great, now we have two masters. as I have had such a > > split brain confi

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-11 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwB's slave carp interfaces notice the "watchdev" going down and > go to master. great, now we have two masters. as I have had such a > split brain config in the fast (due to a switch misconfiguration) I can > tell you

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-11 Thread José Costa
Hello, Is there any documentation about those tweaks for tcp performance? and what about irq thingy? On Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 2:34 AM, Prabhu Gurumurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 07:23 +0100, Martin Toft wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Nov

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* Matthew Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-11 02:37]: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Problem is, a carp interface is not interested in the state of the > > syncdev, it is interested in the state of its own carpdev (since > > multiple carp i

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem is, a carp interface is not interested in the state of the > syncdev, it is interested in the state of its own carpdev (since > multiple carp interfaces on a machine are independent). And carpdev > usually fa

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-04-10, Matthew Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming this is really a problem, could CARP use interface link state > to speed up fail-over? E.g., if the common setup is two routers with > a direct Ethernet cable for pfsync and the common failure scenario is > power failure (or at l

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 12:26 PM, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - PIX/ASA has proprietary serial console fail-over (which is marginally > faster than waiting for CARP) Assuming this is really a problem, could CARP use interface link state to speed up fail-over? E.g., if

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:27:32 +0200, Reyk Floeter wrote: >> - PIX/ASA has some magical black-box inline transparent protocol >> "fixups" > Yeah, they have a magical smtp "f**-up" that is famous for breaking things. Have a look at http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html and search the page for pix.

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:27:32PM +0200, Reyk Floeter wrote: > > I don't know about ASA, but the 5xx PIX doesn't support IPv6 > > > > like the lucent boxes and many other systems. and even if they > support IPv6, they do it in a very basic way sometimes not even > statefully. > Or like on the

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2008-04-10 Thread Reyk Floeter
hi! i cannot resist to give a few comments on the PIX/ASA... but first you should have a look at http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#35 about the Monopoly of Cizzz-coeee. On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:26:48PM -0500, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: > - PIX/ASA is going to get you a default p

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-07 Thread Prabhu Gurumurthy
Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 07:23 +0100, Martin Toft wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 01:29:05AM +0100, Cabillot Julien wrote: Have you try openbsd 4.2 ? PF have been really improved in this release. pf(4) has nothing to do with isakmpd(8), except as it relates to rec

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-07 Thread Karsten McMinn
On Nov 4, 2007 4:09 PM, Chris Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...and it appears to us that that those > sites seem to transmit data quicker than the sites that we maintain with > OpenBSD firewalls and VPNs, assuming identical bandwidth. do some conclusive transfer tests please or explain wha

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-07 Thread Todd T. Fries
isakmpd does not do the crypto processing of the actual IPSec tunnels, it only does the ike negotiations. Presuming you want to use aes-128, `openssl speed aes' shows that a 1ghz system that is running 'vi' to type this message is capable of (at the lowest end) 27mbyte per second. I think you sho

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-05 Thread Chris Bullock
Some say that isakmpd is resource intensive. What is the recommended hardware for a 5mb full duplex optical Internet connection that is doing nothing but VPN. Regards, Chris On 11/4/07, Chris Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have been using OpenBSD my entire IT career, 5 1/2 years, I lik

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-05 Thread RW
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:26:48 -0500, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: >- PIX/ASA has some magical black-box inline transparent protocol >"fixups" People who have met those when trying to send mail will tell you that, at least for smtp, that quoted word at the end of the above sentence has a spell

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-05 Thread Brian A Seklecki (Mobile)
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 07:23 +0100, Martin Toft wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 01:29:05AM +0100, Cabillot Julien wrote: > > Have you try openbsd 4.2 ? PF have been really improved in this > > release. pf(4) has nothing to do with isakmpd(8), except as it relates to recent addition of routing tags

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-04 Thread Martin Toft
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 01:29:05AM +0100, Cabillot Julien wrote: > Have you try openbsd 4.2 ? PF have been really improved in this > release. > > On Nov 5, 2007 1:09 AM, Chris Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We have been using OpenBSD my entire IT career, 5 1/2 years, I like > > the way it

Re: OpenBSD isakmpd and pf vs Cisco PIX or ASA

2007-11-04 Thread Cabillot Julien
Have you try openbsd 4.2 ? PF have been really improved in this release. On Nov 5, 2007 1:09 AM, Chris Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have been using OpenBSD my entire IT career, 5 1/2 years, I like the > way > its easy to roll out, configure and the cost the most. > > I would like an ho