Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-26 Thread Chris Harries
nal Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beck Sent: 26 May 2009 17:35 To: Michal Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 * Michal [2009-05-21 11:01]: > Oh I didnt realise it was that under-poweredoh now I ju

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Beck
* Michal [2009-05-21 11:01]: > Oh I didnt realise it was that under-poweredoh now I just feel stupid > :( Well, we are all laughing at you. but only because too many of us get hit with this bullshit at work. http://a2.vox.com/6a00d09e512cfdbe2b00f30f5b193a0001-pi I mean everyone knows Vmw

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-23 Thread Ross Cameron
e custom Windows app and use an > open source solution using Samba's file share capability (with Samba running > on OBSD of course :). > > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Ross Cameron wrote: > > > From: Ross Cameron > > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekr

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread SJP Lists
Hi, 2009/5/21 Obiozor Okeke : > Hi Diana (and Stuart) thanks for all your advice. > > The problem or nut we're > trying to crack is that we're trying to deploy OpenBSD to remote clients and > we wanted an inexpensive but very high reliability system with the flexibility > to change configurations

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread Obiozor Okeke
Thanks Ross/Ed, yes we're going to dump the custom Windows app and use an open source solution using Samba's file share capability (with Samba running on OBSD of course :). --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Ross Cameron wrote: > From: Ross Cameron > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
Ross Cameron wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard > wrote: > > -(snip)- > There are apps on Windows for which "porting" to OpenBSD would be > roughly > equivalent to "porting" to NetWare Virtual

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread Ross Cameron
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: > On 2009-05-22 Ross Cameron wrote: > > > Certainly the hardware chosen isnt anywhere NEAR potent enough,... and > u're > > leaving ure whole configuration open for attack via the ESXi sub layer. > > > > Why not just port the custom app to

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
On 2009-05-22 Ross Cameron wrote: > Certainly the hardware chosen isnt anywhere NEAR potent enough,... and u're > leaving ure whole configuration open for attack via the ESXi sub layer. > > Why not just port the custom app to OpenBSD and run the configuration > natively on the hardware? Th

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-22 Thread Ross Cameron
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:53 PM, wrote: > Well I'm certainly no expert in all this and I'm happy to be corrected > before > I make any more mistakes with my configuration. Man am I glad I put this > post > out because I'm getting such great feedback! > > I'll have to re-think this but I > honest

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-05-21, Diana Eichert wrote: > On Thu, 21 May 2009, Obiozor Okeke wrote: > >> >> Hi Diana (and Stuart) thanks for all your advice. >> >> The problem or nut we're trying to crack is that we're trying >> to deploy OpenBSD to remote clients and we wanted an inexpensive >> but very high reliabi

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Obiozor Okeke
creating IMHO the world's greatest OS!! --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > From: Kevin Wilcox > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 > To: obiozorok...@yahoo.com > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:39 AM > 2009/5/21 : > >

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread eagirard
Dag Richards wrote: > Jason Dixon wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:05:52AM -0700, Obiozor Okeke wrote: > > > Well I should have mentioned that the ESXi is also running a Windows > > > server VM \ > > > for a custom app that requires it. So the idea was to have one box > > > running ESXi \

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Kevin Wilcox
2009/5/21 : > I'll have to re-think this but I > honestly thought (I guess I'm wrong) that if I my first OpenBSD VM image > running on ESXi as my strong firewall I would be ok. B Basically its just a > virtualization of my physical environment but all on one box with 3 VM images. > So my idea was

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Bret S. Lambert
OpenBSD VM and was properly filtered > and controlled by pf, spam greylisting, brute force checked, etc I would be > ok? No? No. The traffic doesn't hit your vm first; it hits the host os first. Any and all network stack issues there are still in play. > > --- On Thu, 5/21/09,

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Henry Sieff
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: > SNIP . Virtualization is really cool, you > could own the virtual hardware and the O/S would never know. It > takes the issue related to binary blobs to a whole new level. Entire machine as binary blob - never thought of it that way, but

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 May 2009, obiozorok...@yahoo.com wrote: SNIP I'll have to re-think this but I honestly thought (I guess I'm wrong) that if I my first OpenBSD VM image running on ESXi as my strong firewall I would be ok. Basically its just a virtualization of my physical environment but all on one box

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread obiozorokeke
On Thu, 5/21/09, Dag Richards wrote: > From: Dag Richards > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 > To: misc@openbsd.org > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 9:24 AM > Jason Dixon wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:05:52AM -0700, Obiozor > Okeke wrote: &

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Michal wrote: Oh I didnt realise it was that under-poweredoh now I just feel stupid :( No needed to feel stupid, you added to the entertainment value of this thread. ;-) diana

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Michal
Oh I didnt realise it was that under-poweredoh now I just feel stupid :( -Original Message- From: Edho P Arief [mailto:edhopr...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 May 2009 17:54 To: Michal Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:35

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Edho P Arief
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Michal wrote: > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of > Jason Dixon > Sent: 21 May 2009 17:08 > To: Obiozor Okeke > Cc: misc@openbsd.org; Diana Eichert > Subject: Re: OpenBSD

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Michal
-Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Jason Dixon Sent: 21 May 2009 17:08 To: Obiozor Okeke Cc: misc@openbsd.org; Diana Eichert Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:05:52AM -0700

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Dag Richards
Jason Dixon wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:05:52AM -0700, Obiozor Okeke wrote: Well I should have mentioned that the ESXi is also running a Windows server VM for a custom app that requires it. So the idea was to have one box running ESXi and reduce hardware costs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Dixon
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:05:52AM -0700, Obiozor Okeke wrote: > > Well I should have mentioned that the ESXi is also running a Windows server > VM for a custom app that requires it. So the idea was to have one box > running ESXi and reduce hardware costs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Obiozor Okeke
Well I should have mentioned that the ESXi is also running a Windows server VM for a custom app that requires it. So the idea was to have one box running ESXi and reduce hardware costs. --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Jason Dixon wrote: > From: Jason Dixon > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware im

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Obiozor Okeke wrote: Hi Diana (and Stuart) thanks for all your advice. The problem or nut we're trying to crack is that we're trying to deploy OpenBSD to remote clients and we wanted an inexpensive but very high reliability system with the flexibility to change configurati

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Jason Dixon wrote: No offense, but that's a terrible design. Get yourself two inexpensive systems (5501's are ok) and run them in a failover configuration. You have redundancy and the flexiblity to alternate between releases. Without the headache of middleware patches, an

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Obiozor Okeke wrote: Wow!! Thanks guys for all your advice and the vm-help.com site! The OpenBSD community is fantastic!!! FWIW, I've run ESXi on run of the mill desktops, you just have to know the various boot options to get the ESXi kernel to boot. But to sound like a

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Obiozor Okeke
Wow!! Thanks guys for all your advice and the vm-help.com site! The OpenBSD community is fantastic!!! --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > From: Kevin Wilcox > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 > To: "David Talkington" , misc@openbsd.org >

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Dixon
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:47:08AM -0700, Obiozor Okeke wrote: > Hi Diana (and Stuart) thanks for all your advice. > > The problem or nut we're > trying to crack is that we're trying to deploy OpenBSD to remote clients and > we wanted an inexpensive but very high reliability system with the flexib

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Obiozor Okeke
SXi. Then just change the network configs and switch the old for the new all remotely without ever visiting the client Thanks again all. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Diana Eichert wrote: > From: Diana Eichert > Subject: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501 > To: misc@openbsd.or

OFF TOPIC: Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Kevin Wilcox
David - it looks like my mobile device did a horrendous job of displaying your email so I apologise for coming off a bit half-cocked in the last email (and despite it being so much more OT conversation on the list, I still wanted to do it publicly). 2009/5/20 David Talkington : > Kevin Wilcox wr

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-21 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
I ran OpenBSD on ESXi on a Dell 905 at my old job and it worked quite well. It wasn't really fast, but it didn't need to be. All it did was mail web forms. The security auditors didn't even mention it in their report. Ed Ahlsen-Girard

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread Kevin Wilcox
David, I'm currently mobile and unable to track down the HCL for ESX/i myself - thus my mentioning them to the original poster with what I could remember off the top of my head about supported machines. If that was an insufficient response then the OP is more than welcome to ignore it. On the other

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Obiozor Okeke wrote: Hi I am hoping to run an ESXi OpenBSD 4.5 image on a Soekris Net5501 appliance and I was wondering if anyone has already tried successfully running ESXi on the Soekris Net5501 before I order the hardware? Any advice or comments is appreciated. Thanks i

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is way OT for this list, but: Kevin Wilcox wrote: My understanding is that it has a strict HCL, Yes it does. that practically necessitates IBM, Sun, HP or Dell hardware. No it doesn't. Skip the virtualisation cruft and install nativel

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-05-20, Obiozor Okeke wrote: > Hi I am hoping to run an ESXi OpenBSD 4.5 image on a Soekris Net5501 > appliance and I was wondering if anyone has already tried successfully > running ESXi on the Soekris Net5501 before I order the hardware? > > Any advice or comments is appreciated. It

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread Kevin Wilcox
This is doomed to failure, mostly because I am *almost* certain that you'll never get ESXi to install on a Soekris. My understanding is that it has a strict HCL, very similar if not identical to the HCL for ESX, that practically necessitates IBM, Sun, HP or Dell hardware. Skip the virtualisation c

Re: OpenBSD ESXi VMware image on Soekris Net5501

2009-05-20 Thread Jim Razmus
* Obiozor Okeke [090520 19:40]: > Hi I am hoping to run an ESXi OpenBSD 4.5 image on a Soekris Net5501 > appliance and I was wondering if anyone has already tried successfully > running ESXi on the Soekris Net5501 before I order the hardware? > > Any advice or comments is appreciated. > > T