Re: OLPC inks agreement with Microsoft

2008-05-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-05-16, Josh Grosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This slashdot posting: > > http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/15/2320243 > > references a New York Times article published today by Steve Lohr describing a > new agreement with Microsoft It also references a pretty interesting

Re: OLPC inks agreement with Microsoft

2008-05-17 Thread Lars Noodén
Josh Grosse wrote: >... > 1.The decision to push for WXP to replace Linux was due to pressure from > prospective buyers of the XO laptop, which was slowing sales. "'The people > who buy the machines are not the children who use them, but government > officials in most cases,' said Nicholas Neg

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-12 Thread Shane J Pearson
Breen, On 13/10/2006, at 1:20 AM, Breen Ouellette wrote: Hmm. Let's see. Jack's original post is listed in its entirety below. I do not see any quotes around the word interesting. If you read it then you may agree that his meaning is obvious, you may not. I replied to this... http://marc.

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-12 Thread stuartv
So... RMS vs. TdR in a hot jello grudge match... who comes out on top? Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself. For the most part, this whole thread seems just that silly.

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-12 Thread Breen Ouellette
ring their intended purpose. List: openbsd-misc Subject:Re: OLPC From: "Jack J. Woehr" Date: 2006-10-10 16:21:45 Message-ID: 1415ECD7-F7E8-4127-8DF3-A04EF94E7F61 () absolute-performance ! com [Download message RAW] On Oct 10, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: &g

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-11 Thread Shane J Pearson
Breen, I am replying to this in full because I want my intentions known. I'll leave it at this. On 12/10/2006, at 2:58 AM, Breen Ouellette wrote: Jack J. Woehr wrote: On Oct 10, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Shane J Pearson wrote: By "interesting", you mean one is well meaning, but a little kooky

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-11 Thread shanejp
Breen, Quoting Breen Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > PS - Jack, some friendly advice, you are only encouraging them each time > you reply. They obviously don't care about why you find interest in this > subject. They only want to find a way to link you to RMS and then trash you. I wasn't trying

Re: RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Breen Ouellette wrote: > PS - Jack, some friendly advice, you are only encouraging them each > time you reply. They obviously don't care about why you find > interest in this subject. They only want to find a way to link you > to RMS and then trash you. Thanks,

RMS vs TdR (WAS: Re: OLPC)

2006-10-11 Thread Breen Ouellette
Jack J. Woehr wrote: On Oct 10, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Shane J Pearson wrote: By "interesting", you mean one is well meaning, but a little kooky and not always in touch with reality and the other is focused and committed to maintaining some sanity in the world of computing? No, I didn't

Re: OLPC

2006-10-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 10, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Shane J Pearson wrote: > By "interesting", you mean one is well meaning, but a little kooky > and not always in touch with reality and the other is focused and > committed to maintaining some sanity in the world of computing? No, I didn't mean that. I meant that b

Re: OLPC

2006-10-11 Thread William Bulley
According to Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://www.rtos.com/news/detail/?prid=104 > > "Product Category ThreadX Deployments Representative Customers > Wireless Networking 200,000,000 Broadcom, Intel, Marvell" Even more curious is this at the bottom of that sa

Re: OLPC

2006-10-11 Thread chefren
On 10/10/06 9:29 PM, ropers wrote: http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/ from the above link: "Technically end-users are not Marvell's customers because it neither makes nor sells the actual hardware that people use. Instead, it makes chips that OEMs in turn buy and integrate

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hello Jack, On 11/10/2006, at 5:35 AM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: Because they're both very strong personalities, both of whom I've met personally and whom I've interviewed for Dr. Dobb's Journal, and I find the contrast between them ... um ... "interesting". By "interesting", you mean one is we

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Martin Schröder
2006/10/10, ropers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: That archive contains a jpg in base64 format. Here it is in decoded form: http://ropersonline.com/static/nigerian-classroom.jpg If you actually want to help 3rd world children: http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/uganda.html Laptops are the least of their worrie

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/10 12:44, Edward A. Gardner wrote: > In reading these it seemed obvious that the encumbered IP or microkernel > that JG talks about is almost certainly ThreadX, produced by Express Logic > (expresslogic.com or rtos.com). http://www.rtos.com/news/detail/?prid=104 "Product Category

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/10/06, Edward A. Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In reading these it seemed obvious that the encumbered IP or microkernel that JG talks about is almost certainly ThreadX, produced by Express Logic (expresslogic.com or rtos.com). I might mention that I have a lot of experience with embed

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Edward A. Gardner
At 09:38 10-10-2006, Theo de Raadt wrote: Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is one place you can read more about it: http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/ Since Jim repeatedly mistates our views, I am making the controversial move of publishing t

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread ropers
On 10/10/06, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is one place you can read more about it: http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/ from the above link: "Technically end-users are not Marvell's customers because

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 10, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Bob Beck wrote: >> Every book is new until one has read it. It's interesting to see the >> different take >> these two crusaders have on the firmware. >> > > How so? Because they're both very strong personalities, both of whom I've met personally and whom I've i

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Bob Beck
> > How so? They've both been clear about what they want and what they > > stand > > for. > > Every book is new until one has read it. It's interesting to see the > different take > these two crusaders have on the firmware. > How so? that RMS is ranting about another undoable unmain

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:14 PM, bofh wrote: > On 10/10/06, Jack J. Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The differences of opinion between Theo and RMS are at least as >> interesting >> as the differences between either one and OLPC / the chip vendors! > > > How so? They've both been clear about

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread bofh
On 10/10/06, Jack J. Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is > > one place you can read more about it: > > > > http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/ > > > > The d

Re: OLPC

2006-10-10 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On Oct 10, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is > one place you can read more about it: > > http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/ > The differences of opinion between Theo and RMS are at least as interesting