Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024/10/17 23:07, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:16 PM Stuart Henderson > wrote: > > On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: > > > > > > I just don't get the point for trying to support 32bit hardware on a > > > 64bit system. If the hardware does not support 64bit but is li

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:16 PM Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: > > > > I just don't get the point for trying to support 32bit hardware on a > > 64bit system. If the hardware does not support 64bit but is limited to > > 32bit, use i386. If the hardware supports 6

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: >> > > I just don't get the point for trying to support 32bit hardware on a > 64bit system. If the hardware does not support 64bit but is limited to > 32bit, use i386. If the hardware supports 64bit, just don't limit it to > 32bit. Does not make sense to me

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/17/24 18:10, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/17/24 17:03, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> On 10/17/24 09:40, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2024-10-16, Christian Schulte wrote: > > No. That's what seems to went wrong when going from i386 to a

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/17/24 17:03, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/17/24 09:40, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> On 2024-10-16, Christian Schulte wrote: No. That's what seems to went wrong when going from i386 to amd64. The 3GB hard limit of i386 was in the ra

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-17, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/17/24 09:40, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-16, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> >>> No. That's what seems to went wrong when going from i386 to amd64. >>> The 3GB hard limit of i386 was in the range of available physical >>> memory (4GB) without

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/17/24 09:40, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-16, Christian Schulte wrote: >> >> No. That's what seems to went wrong when going from i386 to amd64. >> The 3GB hard limit of i386 was in the range of available physical >> memory (4GB) without swap. The 128GB on amd64 do not. Changing this

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-16, Christian Schulte wrote: > > No. That's what seems to went wrong when going from i386 to amd64. The > 3GB hard limit of i386 was in the range of available physical memory > (4GB) without swap. The 128GB on amd64 do not. Changing this to what > "memory" reads, makes no difference, th

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-16 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/16/24 22:37, Thomas Frohwein wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:08:03 +0200 > Christian Schulte wrote: > >> On 10/15/24 15:09, Claudio Jeker wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-16 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 20:29, Kirill A. Korinsky wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:28:20 +0200, > Christian Schulte wrote: >> >> On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | gr

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-16 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 18:38, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:08:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/15/24 15:09, Claudio Jeker wrote: >>> If the problem was trivial it would have been fixed already. >> >> I am not around here for working on things a chimpanzee could be trained >

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-16 Thread Thomas Frohwein
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:08:03 +0200 Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 15:09, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >> On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: > >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte > >>> wro

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-15, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` ulimit -n `ulimit -aH | grep nofiles | awk '

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Kirill A . Korinsky
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:28:20 +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > > On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >>> ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` > >>> ulimit -n `ulimi

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:08:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 15:09, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > If the problem was trivial it would have been fixed already. > > I am not around here for working on things a chimpanzee could be trained > to do. Ouch, you stepped on a big pile of po

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Zé Loff
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >> On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >>> On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 15:09, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >> On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >>> On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:42:56AM -0600, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 04:34 Christian Schulte wrote: > > > On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 12:45, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep da

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >>> ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` > >>> ulimit -n `uli

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 04:34 Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >>> ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` > >>> ulimit -n `ulimit -aH | gr

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 12:09, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` >>> ulimit -n `ulimit -aH | grep nofiles | awk '{print $2}'` > > ulimit -d `ulimit -dH` etc...

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-15, Zé Loff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >> ulimit -d `ulimit -aH | grep data | awk '{print $2}'` >> ulimit -n `ulimit -aH | grep nofiles | awk '{print $2}'` ulimit -d `ulimit -dH` etc... but then there's no point setting a separate hard l

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Zé Loff
On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 10:14:42AM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/15/24 09:51, Christian Schulte wrote: > > On 10/14/24 15:49, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >> On 2024-10-14, Christian Schulte wrote: > >>> On 10/14/24 10:33, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wro

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/15/24 09:51, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/14/24 15:49, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-14, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> On 10/14/24 10:33, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wrote: > Take i386. Compile it with something -march=i686 or pentiumpro

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-15 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/14/24 15:49, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-14, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/14/24 10:33, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wrote: Take i386. Compile it with something -march=i686 or pentiumpro by default. That's it. Add support for the va

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-14, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/14/24 10:33, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wrote: >>> Take i386. Compile it with something -march=i686 or pentiumpro by >>> default. That's it. Add support for the various PAE MMU options. >> >> "That's it". "Add s

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-14 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/14/24 10:33, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wrote: >> Take i386. Compile it with something -march=i686 or pentiumpro by >> default. That's it. Add support for the various PAE MMU options. > > "That's it". "Add support for". Do you really think it's a thing si

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-12, Christian Schulte wrote: > Take i386. Compile it with something -march=i686 or pentiumpro by > default. That's it. Add support for the various PAE MMU options. "That's it". "Add support for". Do you really think it's a thing simple enough to sum up in a few words? Last time st

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-13 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/12/24 18:33, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 3:58 AM Christian Schulte wrote: >> >> On 10/11/24 15:05, Claudio Jeker wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:23PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-09, obs...@loop

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-12 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 3:58 AM Christian Schulte wrote: > > On 10/11/24 15:05, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:23PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > >> On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >>> On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: > > In a second server I hav

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-12 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Christian Schulte: > Hmm. Why not give up on i386 and make that i686 instead (Pentium Pro)? > What I mean by this. Rename the current i386 to i686 by compiling it for > i686 "i386" is the name of the architecture. OpenBSD doesn't run any longer on actual 80386 CPUs. I forgot what the minimum is

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-12 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/11/24 15:05, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:23PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: >> On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: > In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server > sees only 4GB o

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-11, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server sees only 4GB of RAM >>> Is anybody with similar experiences? Any ideas how to fix

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-11 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:23PM +0200, Christian Schulte wrote: > On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: > >>> In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server > >>> sees only 4GB of RAM > >> > >>> Is anybody with similar ex

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-11 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/11/24 13:57, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: >>> In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server >>> sees only 4GB of RAM >> >>> Is anybody with similar experiences? Any ideas how to fix RAM? >> >> run 64bit OpenBSD >> >> 32bit addres

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2024-10-09, obs...@loopw.com wrote: >> In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server sees >> only 4GB of RAM > >> Is anybody with similar experiences? Any ideas how to fix RAM? > > run 64bit OpenBSD > > 32bit address space is limited to a max of 4GB**, and some of tha

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-11 Thread Kirill A . Korinsky
On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:44:07 +0200, obs...@loopw.com wrote: > > ** PAE can work around this, but I’m not sure if OpenBSD supports PAE at > ** all (and theres other issues/caveats with using PAE of course, > ** including speed and security) > Do you know any example of vulnerability specified for

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-09 Thread obsdml
> In a second server I have upgraded from 7.5 i386 to 7.6 i386 but server sees > only 4GB of RAM > Is anybody with similar experiences? Any ideas how to fix RAM? run 64bit OpenBSD 32bit address space is limited to a max of 4GB**, and some of that is eaten up by PCI devices, etc. ** PAE can wor

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-09 Thread Mike Larkin
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 12:07:03AM +0200, Zbigniew Kossowski wrote: > I have 2 HP Proliant miniserver and upgraded RAM from 1x4GB to 2x8GB (by YT > user). > > First server: > BIOS sees 16GB, dmesg sees 16GB spdmem0 and 1 but only 4GB of RAM > > # dmesg |grep mem > real mem = 3622907904 (3455MB) >

Re: Memory upgrade

2024-10-09 Thread Christian Schulte
On 10/10/24 00:07, Zbigniew Kossowski wrote: > I have 2 HP Proliant miniserver and upgraded RAM from 1x4GB to 2x8GB (by > YT user). > > First server:  > BIOS sees 16GB, dmesg sees 16GB spdmem0 and 1 but only 4GB of RAM > > # dmesg |grep mem > real mem  = 3622907904 (3455MB) > avail mem = 35394232