Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-07 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/7 Richard Toohey > On 7/11/2009, at 10:25 AM, Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > > It looks like the problem has nothing to do with SSD. >> Thanks for hints about this issue. >> I'll try to send the complete failure report within a few days, it end up >> as >> a kernel panic on first boot. >>

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-06 Thread William Graeber
2009/11/4 philippe aubry : > I'm using a 32 GB SSD drive from approximatly one year with openBSD 4.4 into > a SOEKRIS and no troubles with that, the great think is NO NOISE, NO HEAT. > I used the soekris as firewall and the uptime is approximatly 178 days. I've also been using a 32GB drive in a so

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/6 Jean-Frangois SIMON > 2009/11/6 > >> Quoting Jean-Frangois SIMON : >> >> >> [cut] >> >> > The error actually appears while installing xfont46.tgz which is very >> > very >> > slow. It is normal speed util that particular file . >> > errors : many "atascsi_atapi_cmd_done, timeout" >> >

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/6 > Quoting Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > [cut] > > > The error actually appears wjile installing xfont46.tgz which is very > > very > > slow. It is normal speed util that particular file . > > errors : many "atascsi_atapi_cmd_done, timeout" > > one "d0(ahci0:3:0): Check Condition (error 0x70

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2009/11/5 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > Hello, > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? > > I've been using flash based SSD's in OpenBSD systems for 6 or 7 years, > starting with small CF in firewalls and now SATA SSD's in desktops and > laptops. > > Never had a pr

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
2009/11/6 > Quoting Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > [cut] > > > The error actually appears wjile installing xfont46.tgz which is very > > very > > slow. It is normal speed util that particular file . > > errors : many "atascsi_atapi_cmd_done, timeout" > > one "d0(ahci0:3:0): Check Condition (error 0x70

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting Jean-Frangois SIMON : [cut] > The error actually appears wjile installing xfont46.tgz which is very > very > slow. It is normal speed util that particular file . > errors : many "atascsi_atapi_cmd_done, timeout" > one "d0(ahci0:3:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 > SENSE KE

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread SJP Lists
2009/11/5 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > Hello, > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I've been using flash based SSD's in OpenBSD systems for 6 or 7 years, starting with small CF in firewalls and now SATA SSD's in desktops and laptops. Never had a problem installing t

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread David Zeillinger
Ted Unangst wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote: Still, the point I was trying to make - that leaving part of your disk unpartitioned doesn't really help - stands, no? Depends. Partitioning or not partitioning is unlikely to make a difference, as it's writes that ma

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Aaron Mason
2009/11/6 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > > 2009/11/4 Aaron Mason >> >> 2009/11/5 Jean-Frangois SIMON : >> > Hello, >> > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I >> > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt >> > work. >> > After a while, the

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Robert
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:32:59 +0100 Joachim Schipper wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:14:15PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Joachim Schipper > > wrote: > > > This seems predicated on the firmware being smart enough to swap > > > out bad sectors for good setors t

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote: > Still, the point I was trying to make - that leaving part of your disk > unpartitioned doesn't really help - stands, no? Depends. Partitioning or not partitioning is unlikely to make a difference, as it's writes that matter. However, if

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:14:15PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Joachim Schipper > wrote: > > This seems predicated on the firmware being smart enough to swap out bad > > sectors for good setors that are addressable but not used in practice. > > Is the firmware that

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/5 Robert > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:08:48 +0100 > Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > > > 2009/11/4 STeve Andre' > > > > > On Wednesday 04 November 2009 16:10:06 Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD > > > > HD ? I onc

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/4 Aaron Mason > 2009/11/5 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > Hello, > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt > work. > > After a while, the SSD disk becomes like overloaded and unavailable

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/4 K K > 2009/11/4 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > > Hello, > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt > work. > > After a while, the SSD disk becomes like overloaded and unavailable to > >

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Robert
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:08:48 +0100 Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > 2009/11/4 STeve Andre' > > > On Wednesday 04 November 2009 16:10:06 Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > > > Hello, > > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD > > > HD ? I once could on one machine but on my act

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-05 Thread Jean-François SIMON
2009/11/4 STeve Andre' > On Wednesday 04 November 2009 16:10:06 Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt > work. > > After a while, the SSD disk beco

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:44 PM, K K wrote: > This *was* reasonable advice for the older generations of > CompactFlash, but may no longer be a consideration with newer > flash/SSD drives. > > I have run many embedded servers (mostly OpenBSD on Soekris) without > swap, never had any problems traceab

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread K K
2009/11/4 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > Hello, > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt work. > After a while, the SSD disk becomes like overloaded and unavailable to > continue the installing proces

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Robert
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:00:39 +0100 Roger Schreiter wrote: > Jean-Frangois SIMON schrieb: > > ... > > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD > > HD ? I > > Hello, > > it is like for any OS on SSD HD. Make sure, you are using > no swap partition! > > And if you are usi

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Roger Schreiter
Ted Unangst schrieb: > ... >> no swap partition! > > This is ridiculous advice. > ... >> a lot of things into files, put the respective dirs into >> ramdisks! > > Combined with this is even dumber. Hi, anyway, intensive swapping onto SDD HD will destroy your SDD HD. If RAM is the limiting res

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Aaron Mason
2009/11/5 Jean-Frangois SIMON : > Hello, > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt work. > After a while, the SSD disk becomes like overloaded and unavailable to > continue the installing proces

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread philippe aubry
Hello, I'm using a 32 GB SSD drive from approximatly one year with openBSD 4.4 into a SOEKRIS and no troubles with that, the great think is NO NOISE, NO HEAT. I used the soekris as firewall and the uptime is approximatly 178 days. Regards 2009/11/4 Jean-Frangois SIMON > Hello, > Is there any p

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Aaron Mason
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Ted Unangst wrote: > 2009/11/4 Roger Schreiter : >> it is like for any OS on SSD HD. Make sure, you are using >> no swap partition! > > This is ridiculous advice. > >> And if you are using an application, which is writing >> a lot of things into files, put the respe

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Ted Unangst
2009/11/4 Roger Schreiter : > it is like for any OS on SSD HD. Make sure, you are using > no swap partition! This is ridiculous advice. > And if you are using an application, which is writing > a lot of things into files, put the respective dirs into > ramdisks! Combined with this is even dumber

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread Roger Schreiter
Jean-Frangois SIMON schrieb: > ... > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I Hello, it is like for any OS on SSD HD. Make sure, you are using no swap partition! And if you are using an application, which is writing a lot of things into files, put the respective d

Re: Installing OpenBSD on SSD drives

2009-11-04 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 16:10:06 Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: > Hello, > Is there any particular problem with installing OpenBSD on a SSD HD ? I > once could on one machine but on my actual machine it simply does'nt work. > After a while, the SSD disk becomes like overloaded and unavailable t